1. Welcome to 4Runners.com!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all 4Runner discussion topics
    • Transfer over your build thread from a different forum to this one
    • Communicate privately with other 4Runner owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

TRD Pro vs Off road with KDSS

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010-2024)' started by kane22, Jan 15, 2024.

  1. Jan 30, 2024 at 5:13 PM
    #241
    kane22

    kane22 [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2024
    Member:
    #37922
    Messages:
    55
    Gender:
    Male
    That is the one thing I really don't like on the Pro
     
  2. Jan 30, 2024 at 5:19 PM
    #242
    kmeeg

    kmeeg New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2018
    Member:
    #5853
    Messages:
    5,057
    Gender:
    Male
    :D:D:D

    upload_2024-1-30_18-16-11.png
    upload_2024-1-30_18-17-6.png
    upload_2024-1-30_18-18-23.png
     
    JakeTheSnak3 and Yotaholic like this.
  3. Jan 30, 2024 at 5:23 PM
    #243
    djwantke

    djwantke New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2021
    Member:
    #19487
    Messages:
    3,368
    Gender:
    Male
    Maple Ridge, British Columbia
    Vehicle:
    2016 4Runner Trail Premium
    Bought brand new 2016 After May 2021: -Approx 3" lift/level: Bilstein 5100's, OME 2884 590lb 3" front lift springs, SPC UCA's, ICON 158506 2" lift rear coils, diff drop -Mickey Thompson Baja ATZ LT285/70R17 Load E -Mickey Thompson Sidebiter ll 17x9, 0 offset, 5 backspace -Pro Comp black spline lugs ^installed by 4WheelParts^ -New brakes and rotors by brake shop -4-piece ARB skid kit -Smittybilt 2" nerf steps -MBRP black exhaust tip, chopped OEM -Drivers side OEM FJ oh shit handle -All blacked out emblems -Blacked out roof rails -4x WeatherTech window rain guards -OEM custom rear mud flap deletes -KICK BACK MUD FLAPS 12" WIDE - BLACK TOP AND BLACK WEIGHT -FRAM EXTRA GUARD CA10835 engine air filter -1797 LED tricolor fog bulbs Yellow 3000K White 6000K Blue 15000K 28W 4000LM -Armour paint lower rear bumper -Front bumper high stage high clearance cut -Fenders cut straight across, pink reservoir sprayed black -4Runner Lifestyle sequential fog fangs -4Runner Lifestyle smoked taillight decals -Pedal Commander -Rear passenger cargo mounted 120v truck tire pump -4x Spidertrax 1.25" black aluminum wheel spacers -Yota Twins Paracord Hatch Strap sand camo -Teton Workshop hard anodized matte black aluminum shift knob -Ditch flood lights 4 LED 20w 1400lm w/ OEM hood mounts on OEM style dash switch -Backup flood lights under bumper 6 LED 18w 1500lm on OEM style dash switch -Body Mount Chop; cut, weld, paint -Fender mount chop, re-weld, paint -Fender Liner cut behind wheel (I cut liner in front of wheel clean off at top of viper cut) -Wheel well firewall hammering, painting ^done by Arc One Industries^ -valance cap trim -Agency6 Black Shackle Block 2" US Certified 6061 T6 CNC machined aluminum -DRT fab universal hitch skid -ACDelco inner tie rods, outer tie rods, bellows -Full Dr. KDSS switch kit -March 31 Behind grille 13-1/4" 32 LED light bar + wide-angle, eagle-eye lens 6000lm on OEM style dash switch -RAA Powder coated steel roof rack cargo basket, 1" side rails, 64" x 39" x 6", 250lb limit -roof gas can, water can, shovel -PEAKTOW PTT0063 Hitch Mount Cargo Carrier 51-1/2 x 17-1/2 x 4 inches 500 lbs. Capacity (trips only) -July/2023: purchased first needed SPC balljoint replacement kit - newly released, upgraded non-zerk sealed joints 25002 -July 15/2023: The Original Universal EZ Flares, 1". All four corners -Dec. 2023: removed bumper cover and crash bar, drilled frame, installed Apex Overland KDSS Recovery Points -Jan. 2024: SPC balljoint replacement kit - upgraded non-zerk sealed joint design 25002 -Feb. 3/ 2024: 4x KC Wire Hiders, for roof rack lighting Feb. 13/2024: New ditch lights, on new Rago Fabrication Extension brackets. 3inch Quad Row Amber Pods from LED-Club. 32W 3200Lm 16-LED Spot Beam. Replacing 3inch EVERGEAR clear lens ditch light pods w/ yellow lamix-x In progress: 4th, 5th, and 6th set of off road lights Electrical components and wiring purchased, not started -roof rack scene lighting - EVERGEAR ea. 1,350 lumens, 30w, 3-¾" round floods. Custom, side mounted w/ galvanized flat bar And -roof rack upper ditch lights - 3inch Quad Row Amber Pods from LED-Club. 32W 3200Lm 16-LED Spot Beam. Bar clamp mounted to front corners And -roof rack reverse amber pods / secondary hazard lights. 20W 2000Lm 2-LED Spot Beam. Bar clamp mounted to rear side And -roof rack F1 smoked chase light w/ lighting effects. Custom bolted to rear side -POR15 rust proofing line-up, 3-step process PAUSED until 70⁰ weather Bought, in the garage queue: -BlueFire 6-Circuit Fuse Block with LED Indicator & Protection Cover -Blue Sea Systems 100A Circuit Breaker w/ reset lever -Rust prevention •New can POR15, 2x Black Fluid Film, long spray nozzle attachments, 2x PB Surface Shield, 1x Chainwax •partially used POR15 Degreaser, Metal Prep Wanted - PerryParts or Wheelers bump stops, self fabricated limb risers (seasonal, removable), 1" body lift, powder coated center winch bumper w/ large bar (got no tss), rear steel bumper w/ tire carrier for an LT285 Kumho on steely, sliders, bolt on cat shields
    Let me rephrase buddy haha, thank you for those!!
    I mean WHAT can you put up there, and HOW does it balance, there's like one crossbar :p
     
  4. Jan 30, 2024 at 5:37 PM
    #244
    kmeeg

    kmeeg New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2018
    Member:
    #5853
    Messages:
    5,057
    Gender:
    Male
    There are 4 crossbars which you can move top level / down and forward / backward.
    upload_2024-1-30_18-35-23.png


    BTW, this video is for a April 1st Joke. Just open it to show you no of crossbars. LoL
    upload_2024-1-30_18-36-45.png
     
  5. Jan 30, 2024 at 5:51 PM
    #245
    FourBelugas

    FourBelugas New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2023
    Member:
    #33816
    Messages:
    316
    Vehicle:
    23 white ORP
    the rest y'all aren't all over 7 foot 6? Sounds like Pro owners are compensating for their diminutive height...

    :duel:
     
  6. Jan 30, 2024 at 6:02 PM
    #246
    2ndGen22re

    2ndGen22re Goldie, my 1st love & my new kid…

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2022
    Member:
    #26045
    Messages:
    977
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    CR
    Carson Valley, NV
    Vehicle:
    1990 22RE & 22 AG ORP KDSS
    One-at-this-price stripper. Bought new 34 yrs ago, a $13K leftover. Added Detroit TruTrac, 1”rear spring spacer and “pinstripes”… Factory AC kit and roof rack bought at dealer cost at time of purchase, still blows ice cold 32yrs later. 2022 AG ORP all stock.
    We held out in 2022 for +4 months for a ORP WITHOUT a sunroof and finally gave up.
     
    FourBelugas[QUOTED] likes this.
  7. Jan 30, 2024 at 6:37 PM
    #247
    Tooly

    Tooly New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2021
    Member:
    #20051
    Messages:
    323
    Okanagan, BC Canada
    Vehicle:
    2024 4Runner OR Solar Octane
    The Pro roof rack was useless on the FJ Cruiser and is useless on the Pro.

    Hot take, the best factory roof rack was the early trail edition rails (though I'm biased, I swapped them onto my '21 ORP).
     
  8. Jan 30, 2024 at 7:12 PM
    #248
    steelevo

    steelevo Not so new anymore...

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2022
    Member:
    #29845
    Messages:
    2,472
    Utah
    Vehicle:
    2023 4Runner TRD Pro Solar Octane
    Welcome @kane22. I have had the chance to drive a Limited, ORP with KDSS, SR5P, and Pro back to back. These were all on-road test drives. The Limited had the best on-road manners of the bunch but sacrificed some off-road capabilities. The ORP with KDSS and Pro were pretty similar with on-road manners. The SR5P showed the most amount of body roll and lacked a few creature comforts. I have owned a Limited and two Pros. There is nothing that I have thrown at either of them that they weren't able to take in stock form. I don't do any crazy off-road trails and do mainly forest service roads and some deep snow driving. I also prefer the dual climate control and factory remote start on the Limited and Pro trims. I went with the Pro for my last 2 4Runners because I planned on keeping them mostly stock except for some armor and lighting, and I'm a sucker for cool colors. At the end of the day, make the decision that you'll be happy with. You can get $4k-$5k off MSRP on the ORP trim if you are willing to travel out of state. For the Pro trim, you'll be at MSRP at most dealers.
     
    BC Hunter likes this.
  9. Jan 31, 2024 at 3:53 AM
    #249
    kane22

    kane22 [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2024
    Member:
    #37922
    Messages:
    55
    Gender:
    Male
    Thanks for your input. I want the Pro, but is it worth the extra money to me...I'm not sure.
     
  10. Jan 31, 2024 at 5:14 AM
    #250
    ToyotFan

    ToyotFan New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2023
    Member:
    #36203
    Messages:
    205
    Vehicle:
    2023 TRD ORP
    What features of the Pro have you leaning towards one?
     
    kolter45 and Thatbassguy like this.
  11. Jan 31, 2024 at 6:31 AM
    #251
    kane22

    kane22 [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2024
    Member:
    #37922
    Messages:
    55
    Gender:
    Male
    It's just based on looks, minus the roof rack. Did some more checking this morning. Looks like $46k for a ORP non KDSS is easy to find. The best I can find on a Pro is $56k. Not sure I can talk myself into that.
     
  12. Jan 31, 2024 at 6:32 AM
    #252
    Yotaholic

    Yotaholic New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2023
    Member:
    #31655
    Messages:
    3,241
    Olympia, WA
    Looks lol
     
  13. Jan 31, 2024 at 6:33 AM
    #253
    Yotaholic

    Yotaholic New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2023
    Member:
    #31655
    Messages:
    3,241
    Olympia, WA
    You can get Pro looks on an SR5 for 1,500 bucks
     
  14. Jan 31, 2024 at 6:37 AM
    #254
    kane22

    kane22 [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2024
    Member:
    #37922
    Messages:
    55
    Gender:
    Male
    Wheels alone are $1800. It will be an Off-road or Pro for me, locker is a must.
     
    kolter45 and ToyotFan like this.
  15. Jan 31, 2024 at 6:38 AM
    #255
    Yotaholic

    Yotaholic New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2023
    Member:
    #31655
    Messages:
    3,241
    Olympia, WA
    Does the Pro look cooler than this SR5?


    20231218_233004.jpg
     
  16. Jan 31, 2024 at 6:40 AM
    #256
    Yotaholic

    Yotaholic New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2023
    Member:
    #31655
    Messages:
    3,241
    Olympia, WA
    $1,800 wheels, $1,500 Pro grill plus blacking stuff, $2000 locker. That's $5,300 plus $40,000 = $45,300 Saved you $11,000
     
  17. Jan 31, 2024 at 7:05 AM
    #257
    kane22

    kane22 [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2024
    Member:
    #37922
    Messages:
    55
    Gender:
    Male
    Don't forget a lift and tires. If you the goal was to build an off road beast and you didn't care about a warranty or resale value, I could see going that way.

    The ORP is the sweet spot for value and capability for what I need, but the Pro gets me aroused:)
     
    BC Hunter, JakeTheSnak3 and ToyotFan like this.
  18. Jan 31, 2024 at 7:20 AM
    #258
    COL4Runner

    COL4Runner New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2024
    Member:
    #38185
    Messages:
    46
    Gender:
    Male
    So just bought the PEM Pro wheels and grill, the p
    I just bought the OEM Pro wheels with center caps for $883(EBay),
     
    This site contains affiliate links for which the site may be compensated.
  19. Jan 31, 2024 at 7:24 AM
    #259
    kane22

    kane22 [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2024
    Member:
    #37922
    Messages:
    55
    Gender:
    Male
    How do you know if they're real or reproductions? Not saying they were, but is there some way to tell?
     
    This site contains affiliate links for which the site may be compensated.
  20. Jan 31, 2024 at 7:29 AM
    #260
    kane22

    kane22 [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2024
    Member:
    #37922
    Messages:
    55
    Gender:
    Male
    Just called a few more dealers that had some of the cheap Pro's without any added on crap...all pre sold. It looks like it's coming down to an ORP or keep my Tacoma and move on with the day
     
    ToyotFan likes this.
  21. Jan 31, 2024 at 7:30 AM
    #261
    COL4Runner

    COL4Runner New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2024
    Member:
    #38185
    Messages:
    46
    Gender:
    Male
    This site contains affiliate links for which the site may be compensated.
  22. Jan 31, 2024 at 7:36 AM
    #262
    kane22

    kane22 [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2024
    Member:
    #37922
    Messages:
    55
    Gender:
    Male
    This site contains affiliate links for which the site may be compensated.
  23. Jan 31, 2024 at 7:42 AM
    #263
    kmeeg

    kmeeg New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2018
    Member:
    #5853
    Messages:
    5,057
    Gender:
    Male
    This site contains affiliate links for which the site may be compensated.
  24. Jan 31, 2024 at 8:17 AM
    #264
    steelevo

    steelevo Not so new anymore...

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2022
    Member:
    #29845
    Messages:
    2,472
    Utah
    Vehicle:
    2023 4Runner TRD Pro Solar Octane
    That question can only be answered by you. Unless the Pro has something that you must have, that’s not available on the ORP, then it sounds like your heart is set on the ORP.
     
  25. Jan 31, 2024 at 8:22 AM
    #265
    COL4Runner

    COL4Runner New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2024
    Member:
    #38185
    Messages:
    46
    Gender:
    Male
    I have a set of FSW replica's and you can really tell the difference, BUT you do have a point these could be such a good copy that you can't tell. My thinking was they were only $100 more than the FSW's so either way I was good with them.
     
  26. Jan 31, 2024 at 8:43 AM
    #266
    SolarOctane

    SolarOctane New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2023
    Member:
    #36715
    Messages:
    102
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    John
    Long Island, NY
    Vehicle:
    2023 4Runner TRD Pro
    Yes, the Pro looks much better than that poorly modified, hideous SR5...
     
  27. Jan 31, 2024 at 8:44 AM
    #267
    kane22

    kane22 [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2024
    Member:
    #37922
    Messages:
    55
    Gender:
    Male
    No, my heart was set on a Pro, but I keep having my heart broken lol. It might have to be a ORP buy a set of tires and it is was it is.
     
  28. Jan 31, 2024 at 9:08 AM
    #268
    ToyotFan

    ToyotFan New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2023
    Member:
    #36203
    Messages:
    205
    Vehicle:
    2023 TRD ORP
    Since you aren't too far from me, you should be able to get an ORP without KDSS for less than $46k with the dealer discounts. Mine was discounted to $46k and it has KDSS.
     
  29. Jan 31, 2024 at 9:46 AM
    #269
    syeve

    syeve New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2024
    Member:
    #38225
    Messages:
    12
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    TRD PRO
    Hey all, new here.

    OP, my only suggestion is to pick a truck, then not be a dick about what you picked. You will sound stupid and petty.
     
  30. Jan 31, 2024 at 10:00 AM
    #270
    kmeeg

    kmeeg New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2018
    Member:
    #5853
    Messages:
    5,057
    Gender:
    Male
    upload_2024-1-31_10-55-55.png
    |
    |
    |
    |
    |
    |
    |
    |
    |
    |
    |
    |
    |
    |
    |
    |
    |
    |
    |
    |
    |
    |
    |
    |
    |
    |
    |
    |
    |
    |
    v

    Sorry couldn't help, pls don't ban me..
     

Products Discussed in

To Top