Sold 5th Gen for new Land Cruiser 250

Nice pictures of your camping spot and new vehicle.

 

The small fuel tank size is such a strange decision by Toyota. Who wants to have to get gas that frequently? I just had a Nissan Rogue for a rental for a road trip and the thing could get over 500 miles per tank.

 

do you not own a 4runner? I get about 300 miles out of a tank before the low fuel light comes on.

 

What are you getting for mpgs? Ours easily gets 400+ miles of range.

 

400 miles until the light comes on, or 400 miles until you're out of gas?

 

lol precise miles per tank, such a useless metric…..

 

360 or more till the gas light then probably 430 til you actually run out of fuel.

 

Is it really? I reset my trip meter after every fill up so I know pretty close to how far I can push it before needing fuel regardless of when the fuel light comes on.

 

Look at how subjective this is… the way you people describe it, has ton of variability.

 

It's only useless if you want a precise number. Approximate range to whatever point you choose (e.g. 1/4 tank, fuel light, completely empty, etc.) is absolutely a useful metric, so long as you understand its an estimate.

Not everything useful in life needs to be exact.

 

Okay, that's more like where I'm at on a good day. My DTE usually starts around 340, then goes up or down depending if that's a local tank or a highway tank.

I also use the trip meter on each tank religiously (holdover from my motorcycle days). Then semi-consciously check mileage / burn rate at each quarter to see where I'll likely end up, so way overkill compared to what most people do, I think.

 

Same. I filled up at 414 miles last tank, light came on while I was on the way to the station. Took 19.7 gal to fill.

 

400 miles until the light comes on, or 400 miles until you're out of gas?

You were seeking a very precise condition using a subjective and poorly calibrated measure

 

I actually wouldn't mind one of these eventually. But like the new 4runner, rear leg room for my daughters (oldest is pretty tall at only 14) and the concerns I have about being able to sleep in the back my both be deal breakers. OP, had anyone in the rear yet? My wife and I are height challenged, so the people in the rear would probably be as good as they could be mostly.

 

I don’t have a sunroof on my LC250 and the headroom is night and day difference coming from an SR5 with a sunroof. There is plenty of headroom in the rear, but in terms of leg room, it is practically non-existent compared to the 4Runner. The LC250 front seats are massive (profile wise) compared to the 4Runner. I’ve sat in the rear for a moment and felt pretty scrunched in there. I def would not want to ride in the back seat for more than 30 min tbh. THe rear seats do have the ability to recline which gives a bit of wiggle room. The center console area for the rear takes up quite a bit of space. The cargo area has quite a bit more space (height and width) compared the 4Runner.

As far as gas DTE - I am getting a solid 325 miles per tank reading while averaging 23-26 mpg depending on how much city/mountain driving I’m doing. I usually fill up around 1/2 to 1/4 of tank - depending on if I am heading to the mountains (city prices are a lot cheaper compared to mountain prices). I am usually filling up around 7-10 gallons per fill-up.

 

Yeah, i have no idea why they even bother putting in gas gauges.

 

Well, with that clarifying question, I got exactly the answer I was looking for.

If you don't find it useful, that's fine too.

 

Wut? It’s just basic math bro.

 

Premium is just a money waster in the 5th gen

 

No idea yet unless you can see into the future

 

There are several significant uncontrolled variables involved in anecdotal range comparisons:

How close to empty are the tanks in each of the reported ranges?
How is the vehicle equipped? (Especially tire weight, but other weight matters, and wind resistance due to roof-mounted items)
What are the driving conditions? (Hills/mountains, wind, speed, traffic)

 

It’s not that difficult. Just take your mpg and multiply it by the gallons the fuel tank holds. I generally get 19 mpg, times that by 23 gallons and my range is 437 miles. If you add bigger tires and lose 1 mpg then your range is 23 miles less than that.

 

I would think the realistic maximum range would be based on a typical fill-up, which is closer to 18-19 gallons.

 

"Generally" contains all the uncontrolled terrain, wind and traffic variables. If you're just driving in the same conditions most of the time, that makes sense for you. In practice, my range as calculated like that can be anywhere from 300 to 430 miles.

 

WTF. Is this the twilight zone? Look up the definition of range please. Also let’s forget that I even started this discussion and move on.

 

Take it easy.

I understand what range means.

But, the amount of miles you can drive until you run out of gas really doesn't matter. Nobody does that (on purpose). So, for normal people, fuel range will be based on when the light comes on, or the estimated fuel range runs down to zero, or whenever people fill up.

Maybe we need to distinguish between Fuel range, and usable fuel range.

But, as mentioned earlier, the amount of miles that can be driven until the tank is completely empty is a useless measurement. I highly doubt the fuel pump would be able to suck up every last ounce of fuel, so you would actually stall out well before the tank is empty.

 

You’re going to have to take that up with the automotive manufacturers because that’s how it’s always been done with both gas and EVs.

 

Understood. I guess I was just thinking that it would be more useful for them to advertise the actual usable range. I should have been more clear.

 

Low 14s. Last fill up was 14.2mpg over about 300 miles. I'm consistently at 4 gallons remaining when the guage hits empty.

 

Agree. I look at my tank as a 20 gallon tank, I don't think I've ever put more than 20.XX gallons in it. The extra 3 gal is just a safety margin, I would not want to run it till empty unless in an emergency situation.

I always discount the manufacturer's range. When looking into that, I look up the fuel tank size, subtract a couple gallons, and then figure it out based on what's left.