Owner Review: "Delivered! 2025 4Runner SR5 w/ 3rd Row Seats - Owner Impressions, Pics, MPG Figures"

Speak for yourself. I still rock my zip-off cargo shants loud and proud

 

I mean if you feel that way then I’m not particularly sure why you’re here sifting through 6th gen forum threads if you have nothing to say other than to pander at anyone posting. Nothing I can say will change the fact that the 6th gen is 4 cylinder turbocharged.

 

I believe you meant to call me "knuckle dragger"

 

Welcome to the forum and thank you for your meaningful contributions (unlike SOME people).

Don't be afraid to rock the murse. You be you

Edit: Forgot the winky face so you know I'm just joking

 

Thanks a bundle!

Looks like no more metal skid like I’ve read and transfer case seems tucked up above that crossmember. Good info!

 

You borrowed someone’s kids to take photos of them in your car so you could then share the photos on the internet?

 

How much money can Toyota really be saving by going with that donut instead of a full size spare? $20?

 

........

 

At least they didn't have cardboard taped up in the windows with a "free puppies and candy" sign on the outside

 

But hey, what do we know.

 

I just spent the last 12 minutes reading the latest comments and getting caught up on what's happening on this thread, and now...I want those 12 minutes of my life back. I hate all you murse sporting punks!

 

It's apparent why new Toyota products are the way they are now, 4Runners targeting Subaru/Kia buyers who don't really off-road but need three rows seats for their dogs.

 

let’s say they sell 100,000 cars and save $20 each. That’s $2million in their pocket.

 

We didnt ask you to read the thread
If it took you 12 minutes to get thru this dumpster fire and you didnt at some point hit the back button and go find something else to do, its not our fault... You did it to yourself. Sometimes you just gotta know when to quit.

 

All done so they can say "starting price only increased __ dollars" when the lower trims lost some previously expected features including spare tires. Probably saved a few hundred dollars not installing a power driver seat and some of the under body shielding that all SR5s used to come with.

 

Frankly 12 minutes was a long time to go through 3.5 pages of people bantering.

 

That unfortunately appears to be true.

 

And at $50k a pop, all it takes is 40 buyers saying "no thanks asshole" for that $2M in sales to disappear. Assuming a very generous 25% profit margin on each vehicle, if they turn off 160 buyers then they shot themselves in the foot. Penny wise and pound foolish.

Math is fun!

 

The math gets murky if Toyota found out via marketing research that the typical buyers don't even know how to lower the spare and would just call road side assistance anyway.

 

Someone still needs a tire to put on and you still have to drive it after.

But I agree, there are many variables that could be added to that basic equation.

But what if they paid $2M for that market research?

 

Meanwhile if they just added the $20 or $50 to the MSRP no one would even notice or care on a $50K vehicle and no one would be complaining about them cheaping out on spare tires making bad publicity.

 

2 million is pocket change to giant company like Toyota anyways.

 

For those who care about a full-size spare, Toyota is probably betting they would either move to higher trims for thousands more or just buy their own and add it. But the usual buyer probably won’t even think about it.

When Hyundai/Kia skimped on an engine immobilizer, I normally consider myself not a complete automotive dunce and I didn’t even notice or think to look for it on the spec sheet until it blew up in customer faces.

Same with bump stops and everything else that was standard but not anymore. I wouldn’t have even thought about frame bump stops until people noticed and posted about it.

 

which don’t have bumpstops

 

this is likely correct, and prudent.

it’s gotta be worth more $ all in to toyota to outfit 4R’s with full-size spares, than $20
-50 msrp

 

Toyota isn’t paying the same price as us for tires.

 

I wish that Toyota would have kept the fully flat folding rear seats on this new gen.

 

What is the new skid plate material? Is it that felt like material that is used for splash guards in the fender wells?

 

Hairy cardboard baby!

 

TFL just bought an ORP. Hopefully they put out some good test videos and are bringing it to Moab right away. I can’t believe it was $58K though. Insanity.
https://youtu.be/CvZSha5Uiho?si=BjK-ZYILU5jC14FD