OEM LED headlights conversion adapters for 14-20 halogen 4Runners!

Hmm, I would have expected Tory would have told me about that? Do you guys also have to drop the parking brake to get DRL on? I know the Tacoma requires that. Is it something simple like that?

The three things which I know have tripped people up with DRL testing are

1. Head Unit settings
2. Auto on stalk and ambient light sensor thinking it's dark (parking garage) so night mode, hence dim / parking lights on
3. Parking Brake engaged which must be dropped and reset to start the DRL from ECU

Outside of that, the harness doesn't disconnect the high beams, it uses a T to control the shutter through a relay so even if the relay is totally useless, if your low beams and high beams work, DRL shouldn't be affected. All the "smarts" (if you can call them smarts) are directed at that shutter wire.

 

Did the head unit settings.
Don’t have Auto headlights.
Tried putting the parking break on and off to no avail.

Tried following the manual.

 

Disconnect the harness and observe the DRL next?

If you need a refund, no problem with that. I don't see any reason why there'd be trouble but I have no way to test these, I'm going entirely off feedback from other 4Runner owners.

 

I’ll have try that when I get home tomorrow. I won’t be able to get to it till then. Heck no on the refund! You have an excellent product and I don’t mind a little experimentation to help you out!

 

Well…. I’m an idiot. Turns out my DRLs were on the entire time but I couldn’t see them during the day and there is no DRL indication on the instrument cluster. The harness works perfect.

 

I think I understand what you're asking for. I believe it would be straightforward. I'd use 87a off the relay to send the "DRL" signal to the 9005 connector instead of a direct T.

You'd effectively obtain the behavior of newer 4Runners as Tory has described to me, only the LED "high beam" meaning high beams opens the LED shutter but the 9005 bulb only runs PWM DRL.

I wouldn't personally be concerned about legality of high beams but I realize my usage patterns aren't the same as others. High beams should only be used when no oncoming traffic exists so extra "spray" (for lack of a better term) doesn't make them more or less legal, it's all about trying to ensure you can see the road/trail best and that means putting light out at a distance rather than in the foreground.

Anyway, I think it's possible to do if that's what you really really want.

 

I don't really know, as I don't own a 4Runner. You'd probably be best vetting your plan with @mynameistory in that regard. I know he said the DRL is 6V half strength for the newer 4Runners or at least I think he did? So the old ones are full 12v with PWM dimming? Not super sure to be honest.

All I can do is build my harness and have the high beam disconnected when the shutter is open. That's within my capabilities. I'm not sure what the net behavior becomes.

 

I think that would work... Basically the low beam signal would disconnect the DRL circuit at 87a on the relay? That way, anytime the low-beams are on, there's no way for current (PWM or steady +12V) to reach the 9005 bulbs.

 

I added a 4th variant for you. Let me know if you or Tory would prefer different language in the description so it's clear to the buyer what they should get? Having 4 choices seems like it might be a bit overwhelming.

 

Those of you who have done the install, as far as mounting the relays goes, would a zip tie like this work better than a standard zip tie? I'm about out of my 8" zip ties and going to purchase new ones so thought I could streamline the install a tiny bit if these would work?

 

Should be +12V but will be PWM. Then disconnect once low-beams are lit. I don't think there's anything wrong with passing PWM through a relay, correct?

Hard spot to get in to measure, I could do a visual sometime today to help jog my memory. The spot I zip-tied to is definitely too tricky for a bolt/nut with the headlight installed. But if people are putting new headlights in the same time as the harnesses (likely), it would probably make it worlds easier to mount, even with metal hardware.

 

Yeah, as far as mounting goes, since I don't have any chance of getting hands on a 4Runner (unless I buy one which is certain to trigger a divorce) I'm counting on the rest of you to tell me what might be better than the boring 8" zip tie or if that's totally sufficient / as good as it gets.

Something like this is possible to as I sell the SR Tacoma kits so I have this hardware pack:

https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/sr-sr5-oem-led-headlight-harness-v2.736263/#post-26211450

 

Replaced halogen lights in this truck with Sylvania Zevo led bulbs, very bright with great pattern, no flicker, same color as OEM led fog lights, guaranteed for 5 years.

 

https://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/...k-cool-white-light-2-pk-0200504p.html?loc=plp
https://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/...k-cool-white-light-2-pk-0200518p.html?loc=plp

Plug and play. Part numbers for the above that I installed are same as these below.

https://www.sylvania-automotive.com/sylvania-h11-led-fog-and-powersports-bulb-2-pack/H11SL.BX2.html
https://www.sylvania-automotive.com...g-and-powersports-bulb-2-pack/9005SL.BX2.html

 

Interestingly enough, you're the 2nd guy to buy this variant, not the first. I sure hope the other guy knew what he wanted. I assumed that order was yours. If he's on here, perhaps he can chime in once he receives and installs. Though if you guys are anything like me, it can take some time between purchase and install on these things.

 

I'd avoid those bulbs for anything other than decorative use. They are dimmer than factory halogen bulbs at any distance greater than 40 feet.

https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads...ector-headlights.589465/page-72#post-21596941

@rageandlove the problem with PWM is that the 4Runner is tuned for halogen, which has a much slower ignition than LED for dimming. So any LED bulb you stick in there (without a modified driver circuit) will just do full blast high-beam brightness with a slight flicker effect.

I only have experience with the Xenon Depot 9005 kit, which offers DRL drivers as an option to properly dim your bulbs (though I noted a "humming" appearance to the lights, the way a fluorescent bulb might hum). However, those can get fairly pricy especially if you're just doing DRL.

These decorative 9005 bulbs from Diode Dynamics should do the trick: https://www.diodedynamics.com/9005-hp48-led-bulbs.html. Though I can't say whether you will see a flicker, they will at least be reduced in output so that you're not blinding everyone in DRL mode.

 

I have a 2020 ORP with halogen headlights, but just found a set of 2023 LED headlights from TRD Pro (both low and high beam LEDs). Can I just purchase a harness from the below link and install as a plug and play without additional work? If yes, which option should I choose?


https://fbchs.square.site/product/4runner-2014-2020-oem-bi-led-headlight-conversion-harness/20

 

I'd recommend the plug n play quad beam. Everything will plug straight in, no additional work or wiring needed.

 

TLDR, I believe the LED high beam only is for people who are super concerned about the potential for quad high beams being blinding to oncoming drivers due to the different bucket behind the halogen bulb when serving in full brightness mode.

I don't see the downside myself, high beams shouldn't be used with oncoming traffic and the headlight is designed to work in DRL mode (at least I assume it is) so not a massive problem having more light (even if not aimed for downroad use) vs less light when highs are on.

But, it would help if I could observe the difference myself, it's possible that the bucket creates such unfocused light that the foreground is washed out with high beams on and distance vision is reduced vs LED high beam only?

I rely on Tory for all of this and he is the one who wanted quad high beams so that's what I would pick if I splurged and bought myself a T4R.

 

With the altered pattern in the new reflectors, it's impossible for me to say whether they are useful or compliant as high-beams. There will definitely be more foreground light than the older style reflectors. But as Dave said, high-beams aren't for cross-traffic use and I'd rather have the option than not.

 

I could see how maybe having the option for quad high beams vs led only high beams at runtime might be nice. That would require at least one extra relay though and further complicate an already complicated harness and burn a switch spot.

Maybe someone with the quad high beam harness can get a photo (just disconnect the high beam connector on one side) showing the difference?

 

I'm waiting for @mynameistory give me a good news something like a new easy plug and play harness where I can run my quad highbeams with stock headlight stock on my 2021 4Runner with stock bi-LED headlights. Hopefully a solution not having to remove the bumper. Right now my additional highbeams are turn on and off with a separate switch (the same switch I use for my auxiliary lights)

 

the other guy is probably me. i scored a pristine set of takeoff ‘22 headlights late in January and ordered the PnP harness a couple days later. OEM behavior better filled the gap between low beam and aux lighting for me.

install is on the back burner for now. not so much for weather (SoCal) but for family things, little league, etc. i will update how it goes.

 

I am having such a hard time understanding these options!
Not sure why but my brain seems to melt about half way through...

I just picked up a 2018 limited
Sourced a set of 2022s

Looks like the 'ideal option' is what I want though curious if that looses DRLs

Otherwise will the 'ideal option' serve as a simple plug and play once the swap is complete?

 

All current listings are fully plug and play. I removed the one non-plug-and-play option as once the P&P designs were vetted it seemed to be the least desirable option.

@alwaysentropy you first need to confirm that the 2022 headlights have 3 terminals pinned. Then you just decide if you want quad high beams or 2022 behavior (LED high beam only, w 9005 for DRL use only).

The only built-in difference that you can't solve for is how the DRL is done, on 2018 I believe it's PWM dimmed on the + side while on 2022's the bulbs are wired in series.

Hence I have not yet solved for 2022 4Runners who want quad high beams, it's a bit challenging.

As to asking you to post here, it's b/c I am not a 4Runner expert, I don't even own one or have access to one for testing. So, if I make a false statement, others can correct me and you don't get screwed over by my ignorance. I trust the crew here to steer you and I towards the best options and vet out any mistakes or false assumptions.

 

YES! Thank you! I assumed DRL was lost on the quad beam so thank you for the break down.
I'm curious why you DIDNT want the quad lighting... legality?
I'll pick a harness up this weekend. Was lucky to find a 2022 set locally! after getting scammed on the other forum

 

Where do I attach the “box” that’s part of the harness to the 4Runner?

 

https://www.4runners.com/threads/oe...-20-halogen-4runners.25899/page-3#post-395114

Probably other photos in this thread too.

 

I don't think there's a wrong attachment point. If it reaches the lights and seems sturdy (and won't interfere with reinstalling the headlight or bumper), go for it. Best to do it with the bumper off, everything's a lot easier that way.