Modern Car Sizes

As a taller person, I don't like it that cars seem to be getting bigger on the outside yet smaller on the inside. Maybe it's just headroom that's shrinking though?

 

lol i have to agree.

1. i have a 4runner for the capability in winter time (i bought a limited for this ability in ND winters) and not for off roading

2. the wife hates suv and loves trucks since her 1989 single cab toyota truck (rwd only), she wont drive anything else.

i can count on my 1 hand how many times she had driven my 4runner over the last 20 years.

 

Add to that people who buy a Miata and opt for the automatic ……….

 

I think 4Runner it too big. However all of that space is somehow wasted because it is not that big on the inside.

 

What do you have against gay hairdressers?

 

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Perfectly stated point above, but... I keep seeing this argument made in bold and honestly, LOL I just do not agree!

The bold is another unfair apples to oranges comparison many guys keep making, which I find disingenuous against today's midsize trucks somehow being too large.

The 1989 F-150 was only sold as a regular cab and SuperCab, while only the 1989 F-350 was available as a Crew Cab.

How are you going to compare a double cab Tacoma as being bigger than an 80s extended cab fullsize, when fullsize 1500s weren't even sold as crew cabs in the 80s?

And even when you compare them, you quickly find that theory isn't even accurate...

Here are the comparative dimensions between the 2005 Tacoma Double Cab (first midsize generation), 2024 Tacoma Double Cab, 2006 Tundra Double Cab, and 1991 Ford F-150 SuperCab (same as '89).


The 2024 Tacoma is still close enough in size to the 2005 model and SMALLER than both the 1st gen Tundra and 1991 F-150, which is very similar to other 1980s F-150s. '24 Taco Double Cab only weighs more than the '91 Ford SuperCab at 4,265 lb vs 4,135 lb.

The 1991 F-150 is mostly shorter in height, due to less ground clearance. The '91 F-150 and 2006 Tundra are still longer and wider in all dimensions than the 2024 Tacoma.

So 80s and 90s pickups are NOT smaller than the new Tacoma nor is the new Tacoma drastically larger than the midsize 2nd gen 2005 model.

The new '24 Tacoma is 2.3 inches wider at 76.9 in. and 5 inches longer at 213.0 in. than the '05 truck in just 20 years, while still smaller than the 1st gen Tundra which grew huge for 2007.

Automakers follow a strict metric of under 80 inches in width for fullsize pickups with every redesign, with exception for duallys and specialty models (with marker lights). No midsizer is 79-80 inches yet.


The '24 being close in size to an 80s pickup is somewhat a valid point, but I've seen way more bad examples of "midsize trucks are yesterday's fullsizers" that are just not credible whatsoever.

One dumbass somewhere online, tried to claim months ago that today's new Tacoma is larger than Tundras from "uh dEcAdE aGo", forgetting that the last Tundra was built from 2006 to 2021 as the same 2nd generation XK50. Which was the first truly fullsized Tundra, still much larger than any Tacoma ever made to date.

2nd gen Tundra was the round & rotund sumo wrestler against today's MMA fighter in the leaner and more aggressive TNGA-F Gen 3 Tundra. It didn't really get much bigger than it was last generation, because of those dimensions already increasing in 2006-07.

Dude threw a childish fit when I pointed it out as an absurd argument to make.

While the Tacoma has grown a bit, it is not any larger than 80s OR 90s fullsize extend cab pickups in length nor width, unless you wanna be referencing 2WD 1500 regular cabs, which are no longer even being made. Toyota already failed at making a larger rear cabin for the new Tacoma, in being worried about hurting garageability in terms of length.

 

this is a big plus for the tacoma for a people that need/want (just a note she wont drive anything but a truck) a truck but not the size of a full size.

the wife loved her 2016 tacoma since it fit in the garage, but the interior space was really lacking for her 2 hunting gsp dogs (we dont keep them in the bed due to our extreme cold during hunting season, she does pheasants).

once we went with a tundra, she has to park outside, but she was younger and willing to deal with it. but lately she is looking into getting back into a tacoma since it fits in the garage and she wont have to deal with the snow during winter (she is short and snow removal on a tundra isnt as easy as it use to be), but I am having a hard time with it financially since a new limited tacoma loaded the way we want it is 59k msrp vs our 23 tundra plat 4x4 non hv was 67k msrp but 63k after discount but before trade in.

the gap cost wise between a new limited tacoma vs our tundra is my main sticking point. but since the new 4R is coming, she is letting me focus on that since i havent had a new vehicle in roughly 12 yrs vs her like 4 new vehicles (2012 tacoma, 2016 tacoma, 2018 tundra, 2023 tundra) in the same time frame (and before anyone says anything, she pays/makes her own car payment from her own paycheck and not from our joint account).