I really want a new 4runner but the MPG

I would have crushed that 3500 and I am heavily modified.

https://youtu.be/u4zfk6eNfig?feature=shared

 

You gotta put your foot down further, clearly.

Toyota gave us 278 horses to work with, you bet I'm going to use all of them when needed.

 

Yeah, that works, but I'm running stock size tires. So now my RPMs are going up and I'm getting worse uel economy and more engine noise. The vehicle should be better from the factory.

It's fine everywhere else, I just dislike it on the highway at times. And I realize if you floor it, it gets up and goes pretty well, but that's just not my driving style. I don't think most people drive that way.

 

With 4.88 you don't have to floor it. It would take a jump from 2400 rpm to 2800 rpm for my rig to pass that 3500.

 

Well, it was incapable of picking up speed quickly enough to move from the slow moving right lane into the through traffic on the left. I put it to the floor three different times and still couldn't get up fast enough to cut in.

If I had matted it maybe I could have kept up with that.3500 uphill, but having to drive the thing like you stole it is annoying. I've never owned a vehicle that's required such a heavy foot.

 

I've actually thought about re-gearing, but maybe if it was newer. I'm just about to hit 175k miles, I don't want to put that kind of money in it at this point.

 

I drive fast. When I had stock gear, 4000+ rpm was a daily thing for me. It sucked, but music helped lol. The stupid thing can't stay in gear, has no energy. Viper cut and 4.88 are my two best mods lol

 

Why not slow down and create a little space between you and the vehicle in front of you to accelerate? That's what I do when I need to change lanes and one lane is going a lot faster than the other.

It seems pretty well known that these require a lot of pedal input, based on the 900 pedal commander threads.

 

If it all works out, I am buying a new 2024 4Runner tomorrow. With the V6 it will get the same as my 06 Tacoma V6. Maybe 1mpg better?

 

Since I am on a road trip, I did a little experiment. I drove at exactly 50mph for a little over 60 miles. It was a flat road with hardly any traffic .This is what I got.
Not practicle on a regular basis but how often do you see you mileage competing with your top speed.

 

I cross the Sierras usually in January or February every year over Donner Summit on the way to Boise and back. The truck is usually loaded too. I have no issues. It's not a Ferrari, but I am happy with the power. And I don't want the maintenance and unreliability of the Ferrari - or for that matter most other makes.

 

It's a benefit offroad, where you can make very fine throttle adjustments, but I agree it's a little odd on road. Brakes are the same way.

Whenever I switch from the 4R to our other car, I tend to drive it like a race car for a little bit, since that's normal in the 4R.

 

That's what I did, and I still couldn't get in. The other issue is that as I'm slowing down to make room, the people behind me are cutting over and passing me.

This is a really poorly designed section of highway, you get on the on-ramp and then there's another two sets of on-rand off-ramps without an extra lane. It always gets super congested around 3:30 when I'm getting out of work. The through traffic people that are smart will stay in the left lane, but a lot of people don't do that.

I actually do have a throttle controller, it's not how far I have to press the prattle, it's the fact that the engine needs to get up to 4K RPM to make any power. By the time the transmission downshifts a couple years and the engine spools up, I have to hit the brakes before I rear-end the car in front of me if I can't get left.

 

After reading almost all the posts on this thread. I have determined that you people want:

1) Very high MPG's.
2) An engine as fast as a Ferrari.
3) An engine as dependable & reliable as a Toyota.
4) You want to keep your big ass tires and all your armor.

To summarize: It has to get 25+ MPG, have great 0-60 times, and go 150+MPH, have very low maintenance costs and last for 300k miles and you don't want to keep all your body-armor and 35 inch tires.

Y'all want a unicorn.

 

@Borracho Loco lol. Appreciate the summary. Mileage is bad, but then I look at it and think to myself do I really expect this big brick on 33s to get good mileage? Nah, whatever lol it’s fun! After all, I can read and the sticker when I bought new and it says what you’re gonna get on a good day . No lies from Toyota there

 

Darn it, you telling me now I could have had all that just after I settled for "just reliable" with my new 4R?

 

51 mpg

 

yeah it sucks, another 4runner is a pipe dream.

 

Also ugly as hell, i will probably end up with a RAV4 gas only when the time comes.

As i drive very little city mostly all highway miles at 55MPH i don't think i would benefit from a hybrid and going by this Hybrid vs Gas Vehicle Savings Calculator, gas only wins.

https://walletburst.com/tools/hybrid-vs-gas-savings-calculator/

 

Yeah..... NO! That thing is worse than fugly! And it's a Camry, which means I would have to drive it this way: and I don't need the expense and hassle of buying and carrying paper bags all the time. Same reason I will never have a Prius.

 

Glad i'm not the only one that thinks that lol

 

That's false. Unless you're basing it on the OP's specific driving habits.

If it's 45 miles of mostly 55 mph highways, 20 might be possible. If it's mostly 75-80 mph driving, I would doubt it.

It's really dependent on your environment and driving habits, though. Is it likely? No. Is it possible? Absolutely. There are numerous 4Runners on Fuelly averaging over 20. It's definitely the minority, but it happens.

 

I get 33-35MPG on the old corolla, depends on if the AC is on.

 

I don't like the massive grill. Otherwise, I think the newer Camrys are good looking vehicles. Plus, 300hp. I'd love to have one for traveling.

Sure, I'd rather have a Lexus. But, I wouldn't hate a Camry.

 

Interesting choice. It's your money, but I feel like that's the worst option of the realistic ones discussed.

What prices are you using for gas vs hybrid Rav4? And I guess I'm curious why you wouldn't get a car (even cheaper and better mileage), since you already have the 4R and Tundra in the garage?

Don't get me wrong, we have a Rav4, but it is the hybrid model, and we went with this over a sedan so the dogs would have somewhere to ride.

 

Got this yesterday on a three hour drive to the San Joaquin Valley in central California. Oh, and yeah, I was doing 75 mph most of the time.

 

48 mpg

 

The way I justified the fuel expense is simple: I’ll never spend more in fuel than I will having to replace a different vehicle at 250,000kms instead of the 500,000+kms the 4Runner will last me.

buy a cheaper vehicle that you have to replace sooner, how much will your next vehicle have gone up by when you have to replace it? How much would extra fuel on the 4Runner have cost you?

 

A Corolla will beat the 4Runner if longevity is the goal. But Corolla can't do a fraction of what 4Runner can. 4Runner is the jack of all trades. Good choice

But you need to realize, you WILL burn a few Corollas worth of fuel, be ready for that.

 

Well I was basing his replacement vehicle or alternate purchase as one in the SUV family, not compact car. I could use the same argument that he should just buy a Yamaha R3 instead of Corolla and really save on fuel and new purchase price lol also most SUV’s that are great on gas are extremely complicated and the long term research isn’t there. I’ve done tons of research, overall 4Runner was the way to go for reliability, availability of parts, ease of self-maintaining it. If you look up the most model of vehicle still on road with highest mileage it goes
Ford F250 diesel
Chevrolet 2500 diesel
Toyota 4Runner. It’s

It’s on par with diesel longevity. Over 300,000 miles I’ll spend about 62,000 litres of fuel amortized over 25 years worth it. My mom just bought a 24 Corolla, $36,000 LE and sure she gets 47MPG but it’s got alot of screens, doubt it’ll exist in 300,000 miles/25 years. Plus again, can’t do anything a 4Runner can