Hurricane and electric vs gas

We lose about 10 miles on battery charge in the winter, 50ish to 40ish. And use a bit more when turning on defrost, however depending on how you turn on defrost, the engine might come on. And we charge every night, plug it in and it’s scheduled to be full at 7am, if not overridden.

The Prime we can switch between hybrid or EV with the push of a button. Hybrid is a rocket if you get into it, did it today.

 

Well, I have friends in Tampa. They have a 4R and a Model Y.
Power is out right, it has been for about 6 hours. Model Y is at 90%, the 4R is tank full.
Winds, rain, but the dog is sleeping like a baby. We keep txting at a minimum to conserve battery power.
So far so good.

 

My Mom and her BF have a home on Pine Island. The road to get there is washed out. My mom referred me to a Facebook page from the area. These are some images from their neighborhood.









No official word yet on how much damage they had. But, from the looks of things It could be significant. They are on a canal.

 

Florida man dies trying to drain pool during Hurricane Ian, deputies say

https://wgme.com/news/nation-world/...anal-heavy-rain-mother-nature-cpr-paramedics#

 

My prayers for all of you down in FL.

 

in my experience most hybrids run smaller engines; ICE only would be an insufficient power plant, but you can get by nevertheless even if you have no battery charge. if Toyota offers the hybrid twin turbo V6 offered in the Tundra I think all most many some would be happy campers, but i'm guessing any hybrid 4R comes with a 4cylinder plant.

 

Not going to happen.

If the hybrid comes with the same turbo 4 cylinder that we are supposed to get, it shouldn't be an issue. That motor makes way more torque and at way lower RPMs than our current V6. So, even the non-hybrid version is going to blow the doors off our current 4Runners.

 

We have a 4cyl hybrid Sienna; no idea if this is what they want to put in the 4R. It's fine but doesn't wow.

 

I was referring to the 2.4 l turbo 4 cylinder that Lexus is using. So, no, it is not the same thing.

 

Well I have 220, a 90amp breaker to the box in the detached garage. So charging is not a problem. I’m more worried about the trees here. I’m having some twenty dead limbs cut off of four trees tomorrow around noon. Winds should be here later in the evening.

 

They already smashed the 4R and dented the Z28.

 

Well, material things can be replaced. I hope you and your family are okay.

 

Isabel a tree fell on my friend’s Silverado and protected my whole front end on the 4R.

 

Just broke bug deflector.

 

Gasoline engines didn't help these people.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Rita#Texas

I-45 near the Harris/Montgomery line is 1 mile from my home. My neighbor worked for Sysco. They had an 18 wheeler in the Walmart lot passing out water. I crossed 45 on the Louetta bridge. As far as I could see both to the north and south traffic heading north was at a standstill.

A hay burner might have gotten through...

 

Did people with electric vehicles fare better than people with ICE vehicles in this situation? Not sure what you're getting at. It seems to me like excessive traffic was the problem, not what type of vehicle people were driving.

 

The point is that in some extreme instances it doesn't matter what you drive, you're stuck.

I don't understand the angst and hostility among some gas engine fans. Don't want an EV, don't buy one.

Eventually gasoline and diesel engines will go the way of the buggy whip. As EV technology matures it will become better and cheaper. When internal combustion automobile technology was 30 years only rich people owned cars, cars were not reliable and gas stations were few and far between, especially outside of cities.

I'm an old man. I'll never buy another vehicle in my lifetime. My gas powered 4 runner will be passed on to someone in the family when I go.

But if I was a younger man and could get an electric or hybrid 4Runner I'd jump on it...

 

Yes, that's true.

But, once the traffic finally breaks up, wouldn't you still want the best chance of getting out of the evacuation area?

Where is all of this angst and hostility? I don't see it.

All I see is a conversation about the pros and cons of ICE VS electric vehicles in an emergency evacuation.

Just because people think that ICE vehicles are better in a situation doesn't mean they hate EV's.

Edit: I have seen a few comments in some of these threads where people seem to have an excessive dislike for electric vehicles. But, it seems like this thread has been pretty civil.

Maybe I missed something..

The hybrid should be here in 2 years.

I'd gladly drive a hybrid 4runner and get better fuel economy.

But, electric vehicles aren't any good for how I travel, so that's not an option. Doesn't mean I hate them, or have some sort of angst. They just can't do what I need a vehicle to do.

 

I wanted a dirt bike something fierce when I was a kid. As an adult, I realized I would without a doubt kill myself on one

 

Similarly, I am sometimes glad that I could never afford a crotch rocket when I was in my twenties.

 

I waited till I was 40 before getting my motorcycle license. That first year my brother bought a used Crotch rocket and didn't have his license yet, so asked me to drive it home for him. What a fun ride, but it's clear I would be dead if I drove one again. I could not believe how fast it would accelerate, not even sure what the top speed would be, but I can say I think that's the fastest I have ever moved outside of a plane.

 

Yes, those things are amazing! Years ago, my brother had an older Yamaha 750 crotch rocket. He let me ride it once, and I could not believe the power. I don't think I ever hit full throttle with it.

That's actually what made me want one.

The only thing I have ever experienced that has felt similar is my buddy's LS swapped Sonoma.

 

Same; I have some misgivings about the wife's Sienna, but with a full take it has a 500+ mile range, and gets 35+ mpg in city or on the highway. I could handle similar benefits in a 4R with very little discomfort.

 

I have an eighty foot tree, twenty feet from my house.

 

Well start the clean-up. Gonna be a lot of people heading south.

 

They just filled a bed over the top with dead limbs hanging over drive and walkway. Would of hurt someone for sure. Logs!

 

Bought a Honda CBR600RR in my 20's thinking "I'll save on gas on won't ride it like a maniac". I'd never ridden anything other than a bicycle and the guys I learned to ride with in the mountains did regular track days so the learning curve was steep. I ran it into a ditch about 2 weeks after I bought it used and then laid it down in the mountains about a month later (uncle had to come with the winch on his jeep and pull it back up the mountain side - no guard rails on that road back then). After that, I was golden. Kept it about 3 years until I realized it was just an expensive toy I couldn't afford (i went through 3 sets of tires in one year). It was only good in the mountains because highways would wear flat spots in center of tire - so much for that gas savings. I know it would go 151, heard it topped out between 155-160. I miss a bike every spring when they come out of storage and hit the roads.

 

Lady in her husband’s F350 just ran over and pushed my friend’s bike ten feet.

 

Just now seeing the devastation unreal!

 

He can ride on the front tire going 70mph!