Falken Wildpeak A/T3W

These look pretty good and the price is awesome. Gonna run them on my wifes 4runner in 285/70/17.

 

Resurrecting an old thread since this is the only one that might apply to me, that I found from search.

I'm about to buy some 285/70R17 A/T3W's and I am hoping someone can tell me the differences between the 2 tires.

Item # 28034306

• Size: P285/70R17
• Side Wall: Black
• Overall Diameter: 32.8"
• Load Range: SL
• Max Load: 2833 lbs
• Tread Depth: 14/32
• Speed Rating: T
• Tread Type: All Terrain
• Rim Range: 7.5 - 9.5
• Ply: 4

Item # 28030612

• Size: LT285/70R17
• Side Wall: Black
• Overall Diameter: 33"
• Load Range: E
• Max Load:3195/2910
• Tread Depth: 18/32
• Speed Rating: S
• Tread Type: All Terrain
• Rim Range: 7.0 - 8.5
• Ply: 10

Why might I want one over the other, aside from price?

 

The ply rating. The P designation is a passenger tire and the LT is a more heavy duty tire with 10 ply sidewall. There is also a C designated tire in the at3 that is a 6 ply I believe. The C class tire would be perfect for your 4runner. But if your truck is strictly a street queen and only sees occasional dirt road use the P rated tire will work the best. Just my 2 cents

 

The only 2 I am seeing is the LT, and the P. Even according to Falkens spec sheets, these are the only 2 in 285/70R17. There is a 275/70R17 that is designated C. The cheapest P designated I am finding is about $195.00, and I have found the LT for as low as $177.60

My 4Runner will undoubtedly be mostly street, but that's mostly due to where I live in FL. I am getting it lifted and plan to do as much offroading as I can, but in all actuality, that will be few and far between.

 

Yup your right on the falken site it shows the C in 275/70 my bad. Check Amazon for prices also discount tire will match and beat the price for you

 

I just got these put on today, 285/70/17. I was pretty sure I wanted Nitto or KO2’s but then I saw these and read the reviews, seemed worth a try. So far I love them, they look way better than I was expecting and they ride a ton better than the Duratracs I have on my wife’s 4runner. I’ll update as they break in.

 

FYI, I'm in Port St Lucie Florida and have a set of 275/70/17 Wildpeak AT3W's with less than 3k on them I'll be selling later next week. Also have a set of 4Runner Pro wheels to go with them. PM me if interested.

 

@PVT Pablo Looks sick! Are these the 17x8.5 or 17x9 Ray 10s?

 

Thanks man! I've got the 8.5's, but I'm running Ridge Grapplers now.

 

I live in the PNW of Canada and looking to upgrade my stock dunlops.

Seems I've picked the wildpeaks, but really unsure about the SL vs E rated for the 265/70/17. I drive MOSTLY pavement but hit up parks/forestry roads on average once every 2 weeks. Not "wheeling" or rock crawling, just getting to trails and whatnot. Currently my dunlops have done that okay, but I also haven't aired down (I was on one road where a truck got a flat from the sharp rocks, scared me!)

Seemingly airing down these non-LT rated tires isn't as reliable/safe to do due to the sidewall? Or is this not truly an issue and the lighter+cheaper SL-rated ones would do just fine to hit the gravel, rocky, washed out roads?

 

I would say you're right on all counts. Airing down the SL rated tires would be riskier than with E tires, but I don't think you would need to air down for the type of driving you described. I think you'll probably benefit more from the lighter weight and lower cost of the SL variant.

 

Agreed with @racoats

But, wow those Wildpeaks are heavy as F**k! Even the SL are heavier than some LT options.

@kaitlyn2004 will you be running these tires year round? Or, are you going to have dedicated winter tires as well?

 

I often hear about airing down to around 20psi on gravel roads. I'd like to help avoid punctures, and also made the ride much smoother (currently pretty bumpy and uncomfortable on the roads!) but obviously not worth serious damage to the tire - but maybe airing down to like 25 is fine?

Yeah, they almost... seem tooo heavy? But they seem well liked and rated. My first non-factory tire purchase, so... yeah.

Plan is to run them year-round, and the wildpeaks are snowflake rated (I guess a lot but not all AT are?). Moreso in summer they become my "offroad" tire and in winter, well, my "winter" tire.

 

@kaitlyn2004 Probably you wouldn't want to go much below 25 PSI with the SLs. If you really want to air down with confidence, you probably should spring for E rated.

I recently opted to replace my stock Dunlops as well, and decided on SL-rated Toyo Open Country AT3s. As I recall, the tires were around 42 pounds - not sure how that compares to the Falkens, though given @Thatbassguy 's reaction, they might be significantly heavier. I've run E rated tires on other rigs, but I don't anticipate that I'll be doing anything hardcore with my new-to-me 2018 'runner for now. It's going to be my daily driver, once COVID is done, so the SLs seemed like the best choice for me.

I'm very happy with the Toyos so far. Reasonably aggressive tread, pretty quiet, and no worse from a handling perspective than the Dunlops. They are triple peak rated too, though that's less of a concern for me here in southern California. Haven't used them off road yet. Desert is still too hot, and all of the forest roads are closed due to wildfire threat.

 

The Wildpeaks are extremely popular on Tacomaworld. I know a number of guys running them with no complaints. They're just a little heavy I guess.

I usually drop to 25 PSI on trails, but occasionally I go lower.

 

10,000 miles no issues on the Wildpeaks

 

@Firefly21 Nice! Those look the business. How's the noise level?

 

Noise is acceptable just a tad bit noticeable over stock

 

I inquired to Falken directly about the SL vs E-rated 265, and I saw elsewhere they provided a nice detailed response to a customer about their situation.
Was a bit surprised this is all I got back. Not very helpful

 

Yeah, they can’t recommend airing them down for safety reasons.

 

Ah, makes sense I suppose. My main questioning I guess is airing down the SL vs the E tire... I've randomly heard people say never to air down non-LT tires, and I suppose technically the SL 265's are not LT... whatever that actually means.

 

I think that might be due to the sidewalls of the tires, E rated tires have a 10 or 12 ply rating making them more durable, or tuff if you will.

 

I have the stock size 265/70R17 SL rated Falken Wildpeaks and I've been experimenting with both airing down and not airing down for off road use. Normal everyday use, I have them aired up to match the sticker on the door frame - 32PSI, IIRC.

Last year I took a trail in Arkansas that would've fit in an Off Road Magazine article. It was an extreme trail where we found ourselves stacking rocks to overcome an obstacle 1.5 hours into the trail. There was mud, there was loose rocks and mud, there was steps and water crossings, and more muddy off camber hill climbs. It was a 3 hour tour that really impressed me with how well the stock size Falken Wildpeaks can do without being air down.


Lowest I've gone to was 15 psi on a rocky off road area. While the tires didn't come off the bead of the wheels, I think that was a little too much as I did find some cuts on one of the sidewalls. I can't say for certain if the cuts happened off road though.

Here's what 15psi looks like:

Here's an extreme view of what 15psi looks like. Notice how the sidewall is significantly exposed. You don't want that for a SL tire:


Different angle of the above:



Couple weeks ago, I went back to same area where we did that crazy trail. This time we had a bunch of new guys in new vehicles and we didn't take that trail. We did some other easy ones. This time I aired down to 20PSI which seemed about perfect. The ride was a little softer and there was less of a chance of cutting the sidewalls.



Reason I chose the SL Falkens over the E rated Falkens was weight. The SL's don't weigh much more than the stock Dunlop tires.
Lesser weight in tires = increased fuel economy. Traction is still fantastic. For everyday use, I've been impressed by the grip of the Falkens.

 

I just got a set of these and I am really impressed. So far have been awesome in snow and rain. Haven’t done much off road yet. I now want a set for my Tundra.

 

Glad to hear this. I’ll be looking for AT tires when I get my 4Runner. Only plan to maybe do some dirt gravel washboard desert trails once a month or so with an occasional trip soirée to Death Valley

Don’t want E tires as I like a nicer on road ride and don’t plan on towing or having heavy loads or airing down past say 25 PSI. Also want to keep tire weight 46lb or less in stock size 265/70/17

Options now limited to P and C load.


Cooper AT3 LT C load 45lbs

KO2 C load 44lbs

Wildpeaks P load 45lbs

Grabber A/TX C load 46 lbs

Toyo A/T 3 P load 39lbs

was leaning to KO2 C load but their side wall is only 2 ply. The other tires all 2 ply as well and seem to have a little better on road manners and better in wet.

Wildpeaks seem to have a 2 ply sidewall but folded over adding more protection so wondering if this gives as good protection if not better protection than the KO2 side wall? Seems max PSI is essentially same for these two tires except Wildpeak rayed P load vs KO2 C Load.

not sure how sidewalls on the others on the list stack up to KO2 or WP. If I wasn’t driving south west desert and just doing soft forest roads dirt/mud/beach I wouldn’t care so much about squeezing out a little extra protection while keeping weight and road manners in check.

with that said for the 5 days a year it sprinkles in northern Nevada I probably shouldn’t care as much about wet road handling of the KO2’s vs the Wildpeaks but I suspect the ride would be softer and less noise with WP’s


Anyone have thoughts or feelings on this they would like to share?

 

I’m about to do the same set up on my 2015 limited, but raise the front end 0.85” with the Blistein 5100s. Are you saying the 265s rub with the stock set up? I was under the impression that anything up to 275 wouldn’t rub with a stock set up. Also, do you have any other pictures you could share?