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End of the gas engine?

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010-2024)' started by YetiMtnBkr, May 22, 2023.

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    If you are not driving a hybrid 20k+ miles a year, I don't thinking you are saving any money on gas. Whatever you saved, you will spend to buy another stupid battery. For a Prius, you could spend $4000 to buy another battery pack and keep running the stupid thing. But what are you gonna do with EV, buy a $20,000 battery for it? Screw that. I would love to have a hybrid truck, but strictly for more power. A hybridized 4.0L in the 4Runner that puts out 350 hp and 350 lb ft of torque would be sweet.
     
  2. Mar 16, 2024 at 4:46 PM
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    If fuel economy is your thing, then why not a non hybrid lil 1.8L Corolla that could last 3 decades? Last time I checked they had 35 mpg.
     
  3. Mar 16, 2024 at 4:59 PM
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    Yes, somebody gets it!!! Please reproduce sir.
     
  4. Mar 16, 2024 at 5:00 PM
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    So the girl wanted a cute cuddly Priu for herself. Fair enough!
     
  5. Mar 17, 2024 at 4:14 AM
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    And you seem to need big burly vehicles :boink::duel:
     
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    Some people are very insecure. :notsure:
     
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  7. Mar 17, 2024 at 10:30 AM
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    I don't fit in small vehicles.
     
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    The world is not kind to tall people. At 6'6" and 61 yrs old, I do not look forward to a midget car mandate.
    I just recently drove my V8 out to Phoenix from Florida. Cost a shit ton in gas and I had smile on my face the whole time listening to that V8 Doug Thorley rumble. Never even turned on the radio.
    So, I'm a lost cause trying to sell me on an ev midget car.
     
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    Your comfort is the most important thing. Life is short. Don't torture yourself in an Eco box to save gas.
     
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    LMAO!
    Sorry there pumpkin spice, didn't mean to trigger you. Someone mentioned a prIus (midget car). Yes, I do get outta Bubbaville, 30 weeks a year for work as a fiber optic tech. I have driven hybrid rental cars, many times. Nothing wrong with them, except they come with the myth that you're saving the planet.
    I'm also smart enough to not watch msm. If you do believe the msm, how is it to be blissfully ignorant?
    For accurate weather I check NOAA buoy reports and radar. Aannd I guess if growing up ever gets mandated, I will call you for lessons. I do appreciate your interest in my immature decisions in life. Now excuse me
    I'm going to take my lithium bath.
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    Lexus TX and Toyota Grand Highlander, like Tacoma and Tundra hybrid, have hybrid system to give them more power. They don't give great has mileage.
     
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    I feel like this thread has turned into

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    I’ll move on from inflexible, insecure, selfishness here online. I get enough from folks in person.
     
  14. Mar 18, 2024 at 4:27 AM
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    It's turning into the usual EV thread shit-show.
     
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    Where/when are "midget" cars being mandated?

    Is your '03 a V8? I had an unusual setup in my '03. It was an SR5, but it was a V8 and had leather and a moon-roof. It was like a Limited with an SR5 shell.

    I ended up putting a Gibson cat-back on it a year or so before I traded it in. I ended up hating it after that. I love a good exhaust note when I'm on the gas, but I couldn't stand the droning on the freeway.
     
  16. Mar 18, 2024 at 4:42 AM
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    Where are you seeing these batteries die? I have friends who own teslas for over 10 years still going strong. believe me, I am no tesla apologist, but their batteries are not the problem.
     
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    I never said that midget cars ARE being mandated, but going all ev by a certain date has been at the core of the discussion. Hence the mandate reference.
    As far as being selfish, I would never propose that someone has to drive a certain vehicle, but the discussion always circles back to the core of the debate, someone wants me to drive something else because of a belief. Not buying it, period. So, if that is being selfish? So be it. There will be plenty of ev and alternatives for anyone who can afford them in the future, of that I have no doubt.
    The exhaust on this truck is not for everyone. If I keep it at certain rpms, it's not bad at all. So I adjust my speed on the hwy for traffic and the drone.
    This week I have a Ford rental 4 cyl Turbo. Very quick, but it has its own annoyances.
    So I miss my V8, which I built to my preferences. However, I fear we WILL NOT have that opportunity in the future.
     
  18. Mar 18, 2024 at 8:57 AM
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    I guess I'm confused.

    I'm not in favor of an EV mandate, either. I prefer that we're allowed to buy what we want, and let the market decide. I was just wondering where the "midget car" term comes into play.

    I never accused anyone of being selfish, so I assume you're referring to another member.

    We already know that EV's have a long way to go before they're a real solution for the environment. It sounds like new battery technology could be emerging, but there are still other limitations and drawbacks that keep me from being interested.

    As fast as EV's are, they'll never have the charm of ICE sports cars. I enjoy a good exhaust sound, and shifting gears. I'll take a V8 or I6 any day, even if it's not as fast.

    What type of mufflers do you have on the V8? The Gibson had a drone, but I know every exhaust is different. I had a Pacesetter header and custom exhaust with a Magnaflow muffler on my old Supra. It had a great sound at WOT, but was pretty quiet cruising.
     
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    Sorry, I read several posts at one time, probably got them crossed up.
    There aren't many smallish vehicles/suvs that have comfortable seats for tall people. Which is why I threw midget car out there. The used Corbeau racing seats I put in the 4th gen, I now like better than my 5th gen LE seats. The Sienna is comfortable, but not me or in my budget.
    Also, not very many people know what its like to be 6'6" and crawl out of a small vehicle in a tight parking spot. Its painful. So that's when I start cussing about midget cars.
    I have the DT headers and Y pipe w a Vibrant Performance muffler. The muffler back is a bastardized hodge podge. It's loud at WOT and quiet at idle. The drone does have its moments at about 2200 rpms.
     
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    we've captured a lot of tech from aliens :alien:
     
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    Bought brand new 2016 After May 2021: -Approx 3" lift/level: Bilstein 5100's, OME 2884 590lb 3" front lift springs, SPC UCA's, ICON 158506 2" lift rear coils, diff drop -Mickey Thompson Baja ATZ LT285/70R17 Load E -Mickey Thompson Sidebiter ll 17x9, 0 offset, 5 backspace -Pro Comp black spline lugs ^installed by 4WheelParts^ -New brakes and rotors by brake shop -4-piece ARB skid kit -Smittybilt 2" nerf steps -MBRP black exhaust tip, chopped OEM -Drivers side OEM FJ oh shit handle -All blacked out emblems -Blacked out roof rails -4x WeatherTech window rain guards -OEM custom rear mud flap deletes -KICK BACK MUD FLAPS 12" WIDE - BLACK TOP AND BLACK WEIGHT -FRAM EXTRA GUARD CA10835 engine air filter -1797 LED tricolor fog bulbs Yellow 3000K White 6000K Blue 15000K 28W 4000LM -Armour paint lower rear bumper -Front bumper high stage high clearance cut -Fenders cut straight across, pink reservoir sprayed black -4Runner Lifestyle sequential fog fangs -4Runner Lifestyle smoked taillight decals -Pedal Commander -Rear passenger cargo mounted 120v truck tire pump -4x Spidertrax 1.25" black aluminum wheel spacers -Yota Twins Paracord Hatch Strap sand camo -Teton Workshop hard anodized matte black aluminum shift knob -Ditch flood lights 4 LED 20w 1400lm w/ OEM hood mounts on OEM style dash switch -Backup flood lights under bumper 6 LED 18w 1500lm on OEM style dash switch -Body Mount Chop; cut, weld, paint -Fender mount chop, re-weld, paint -Fender Liner cut behind wheel (I cut liner in front of wheel clean off at top of viper cut) -Wheel well firewall hammering, painting ^done by Arc One Industries^ -valance cap trim -Agency6 Black Shackle Block 2" US Certified 6061 T6 CNC machined aluminum -DRT fab universal hitch skid -ACDelco inner tie rods, outer tie rods, bellows -Full Dr. KDSS switch kit -March 31 Behind grille 13-1/4" 32 LED light bar + wide-angle, eagle-eye lens 6000lm on OEM style dash switch -RAA Powder coated steel roof rack cargo basket, 1" side rails, 64" x 39" x 6", 250lb limit -roof gas can, water can, shovel -PEAKTOW PTT0063 Hitch Mount Cargo Carrier 51-1/2 x 17-1/2 x 4 inches 500 lbs. Capacity (trips only) -July/2023: purchased first needed SPC balljoint replacement kit - newly released, upgraded non-zerk sealed joints 25002 -July 15/2023: The Original Universal EZ Flares, 1". All four corners -Dec. 2023: removed bumper cover and crash bar, drilled frame, installed Apex Overland KDSS Recovery Points -Jan. 2024: SPC balljoint replacement kit - upgraded non-zerk sealed joint design 25002 -Feb. 3/ 2024: 4x KC Wire Hiders, for roof rack lighting Feb. 13/2024: New ditch lights, on new Rago Fabrication Extension brackets. 3inch Quad Row Amber Pods from LED-Club. 32W 3200Lm 16-LED Spot Beam. Replacing 3inch EVERGEAR clear lens ditch light pods w/ yellow lamix-x In progress: 4th, 5th, and 6th set of off road lights Electrical components and wiring purchased, not started -roof rack scene lighting - EVERGEAR ea. 1,350 lumens, 30w, 3-¾" round floods. Custom, side mounted w/ galvanized flat bar And -roof rack upper ditch lights - 3inch Quad Row Amber Pods from LED-Club. 32W 3200Lm 16-LED Spot Beam. Bar clamp mounted to front corners And -roof rack reverse amber pods / secondary hazard lights. 20W 2000Lm 2-LED Spot Beam. Bar clamp mounted to rear side And -roof rack F1 smoked chase light w/ lighting effects. Custom bolted to rear side -POR15 rust proofing line-up, 3-step process PAUSED until 70⁰ weather Bought, in the garage queue: -BlueFire 6-Circuit Fuse Block with LED Indicator & Protection Cover -Blue Sea Systems 100A Circuit Breaker w/ reset lever -Rust prevention •New can POR15, 2x Black Fluid Film, long spray nozzle attachments, 2x PB Surface Shield, 1x Chainwax •partially used POR15 Degreaser, Metal Prep Wanted - PerryParts or Wheelers bump stops, self fabricated limb risers (seasonal, removable), 1" body lift, powder coated center winch bumper w/ large bar (got no tss), rear steel bumper w/ tire carrier for an LT285 Kumho on steely, sliders, bolt on cat shields
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    Nothing to see here folks, just globalists attempting yet another enslavement step. Thank your local "progressive" lol.
     
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    Let's go

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    Love these old school shops. They gave me a chair to sit and watch

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