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Eibach Lift: Upper Control Arms or No?

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010-2024)' started by goicuon19, Sep 28, 2020.

  1. Oct 2, 2020 at 6:35 AM
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    Your best chance of not squeaking is having a grease on there that will stay put and not wash away easily with typical road conditions. Silicone grease will last the longest on a polyurethane bushing because of its tackiness and inability to wash away easily (like lithium grease). Although it feels sticky, ultimately it's a very thin layer that remains on the bushing and that layer is really durable. I think it's the best option, especially considering so many urethane bushing manufacturers recommend it for their product.
     
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  2. Oct 2, 2020 at 6:38 AM
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    That’s what I figured too. Thanks for the second opinion.
     
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    I grease the UCAs and my sway bar bushings every 5k or when I look and see any seepage. Haven't heard a sound out of them
     
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  4. Oct 6, 2020 at 9:34 AM
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    I've got a 2018 SR5 prem, TRD rims, stocksize wildpeaks, and the Eibach kit. I have noticed no degradation in the handling, in fact after the Eibach kit was installed the handling improved greatly. Around town no issues, highway driving no issues, 2 road trips (400 miles and 1400 miles) no issues, and off road in Moab (the fairly easy stuff) again no issues. I too was debating UCAs but for now I'm thinking I will hold out. If my balljoints gave out, then I'd defiantly get new UCAs.
     
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  5. Oct 6, 2020 at 9:45 AM
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    My experience with the Eibach lift off-road has been mainly easy trails. Has anyone actually tested how it does in more moderate to hard trails? Sorry don’t mean to thread jack..
     
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  6. Oct 6, 2020 at 11:58 AM
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    I don't mind I wanted to know about this too!
     
  7. Oct 6, 2020 at 3:02 PM
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    Here are my alignment specs in case anyone cares, this is stock UCAs with my setup above. I also switched my order from JBA to now Camburg ball joint UCAs and getting those installed next Tuesday. I am very interested to see the difference in alignment. I will post the difference once alignment is done.

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  8. Oct 7, 2020 at 7:30 AM
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    Please do!
     
  9. Oct 13, 2020 at 7:59 PM
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    Just got these delivered today!!! Guess I know what I’m doing this weekend.

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    Pinstripes, lots of em. Plus a couple dents.

    I have - rocks, mud, water crossings, rocky muddy hill climbs w/ off camber sections.
    Will be out this weekend doing more at the Rendezvous in the Ozarks:

    https://www.4runners.com/threads/rendezvous-in-the-ozarks-2020-october-16-18-ozark-arkansas.15931/


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    There’s nothing like the feeling of getting new parts.
     
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    Got these installed yesterday and finally suspension is all done, at least for now until I decide to upgrade.

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  13. Oct 15, 2020 at 10:03 AM
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    So I got the BFG KO2's(275/70/17) with Black Rhino Sidewinders on this past weekend. And I am getting a lot of wobble when I drive especially at higher speeds. What could the issue be?

    I do have a Eibach Lift in, but that didn't have any effect to the shaking when driving on stock tires.

    I know i just posted a different thread, but figured would keep this one going.
     
  14. Oct 15, 2020 at 10:36 AM
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    Most likely an out of balance tire
     
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  15. Oct 21, 2020 at 9:44 PM
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    Before:

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  16. Oct 21, 2020 at 9:45 PM
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    After:

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  17. Oct 22, 2020 at 2:29 AM
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    How did the install go? I've got the same UCA's coming for mine, I'm patiently waiting..... What did your caster reading come up with on the realign? Thanx in advance for the questionaire return.
     
  18. Oct 22, 2020 at 6:41 AM
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    I got an alignment set for this weekend. My friend and I got it installed in about 1.5 hours. Very straight forward process.
     
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  19. Oct 24, 2020 at 11:29 AM
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    Got 3.4 degrees caster on left and 3.6 on the right.

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  20. Oct 24, 2020 at 1:27 PM
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    Finally had the alignment done after getting the Camburg UCAs installed. See the specs if you’re interested, still really no idea how to read these things haha

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    Nice! You got a good amount of caster out of those UCA's. How's it ride?

    Any rubbing on the front fender liner or have you already done that mod? Pardon me for not knowing off hand.
     
  22. Oct 24, 2020 at 2:39 PM
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    Those are good numbers.

    That's what I have at 1.6" of lift in the front with the stock UCAs.
     
  23. Oct 24, 2020 at 4:17 PM
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    Yeah I was happy with the numbers. In between 3-4degrees was what I was hoping for. Though once I put the new arms on I noticed a lot more rubbing of the mud flaps. So I trimmed the “bulge” in the mudflaps and that remedied the rubbing.
     
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    I've heard from JBA that between 3.0-4.0 degrees is ideal.... You're smack dab in the middle of that! One more question... How does it drive?
     
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    I took it to a shop that had great reviews and was hoping for good results.

    Overall ride quality is much better, feels a lot tighter driving wise overall. No rubbing at all, I had already done the trimming.
     
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  26. Oct 25, 2020 at 7:49 AM
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    Good to hear! Congrats!
     
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    I see you have KDSS. How is the Eibach lift going with KDSS. Any Issues? Complaints?
     
  28. Mar 25, 2021 at 9:37 AM
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    Sorry for the late reply. No issues so far that I have noticed with the KDSS, have not taken the rig out on a proper trail but planning to in May so will have a better idea on how it performs then. The shop I went to was able to level out the KDSS after install and was confident they did a good job.

    The Bilstein 5100s paired with Eibach springs are okay, the ride is still definitely rough around the city but being a budget build I am pleased. Originally wanted to do the Bilstein 6112s up front and 5160s in the back but at the time were out of stock and I needed to get the spacers that were on the rig when I bought it taken off. I do think adding the Camburg UCA's was overkill and could have gotten away with keeping it stock for what I use the rig.
     
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    Hey, sorry.. I know this is old. If you see this, would you mind telling me what boot that is on your front shock? Thanks!
     
  30. Mar 25, 2021 at 9:59 AM
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    I am really not sure, I would assume it is stock since I did not order anything extra unless the shop I took it to added that. Just to clarify I went with Bilstein 5100s up front and not the eibach shocks.
     
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