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Any 2023 TRD Pro owners running Eibach lift springs?

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010-2024)' started by UATahoe, Jan 2, 2024.

  1. Aug 5, 2024 at 5:33 PM
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    Method 701, RSG rock sliders, Dobinsons uca, Cali Raised Bumper Warn Evo Winch
    I went a different direction on my 2020 pro with eibach springs. I do off-road and daily driver. I put on 285 Wildpeaks on TRD wheels with light rubbing in reverse. Off-roading not so good. I sold my TRD wheels for Method 701 - 17x8.5. I added Dobinsons UCA. After that, wheel well work. I didn’t want a viper cut. So I took off the wheels I kept the flaps on then cut/trimmed the inside the wheel well walls, then heat gun to push back the mold as far as i could.
    This all was done over a year. The rear now sits 23.25 front is just sitting about 22.90 with caliraised hidden winch that added approx 155lbs. No rubbing on the road or off-roading, at least yet.
    Pix of the wheel will now.
     

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    I have the apex points, full aluminum skids, and the 285 spare in the back. It sits just below your measurements that with the Wescott. I'm currently looking into a Magnuson supercharger which weighs around 90lbs. It seems like the '23-'24 springs would be the best option if I go that route.
     
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  4. Aug 6, 2024 at 6:41 AM
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    Those Apex recovery points cant be that heavy can they? I would think full skids and the supercharger up front would be enough to bring the eibach nose down enough to have the right amount of rake.
     
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    Agree they don’t make a difference. Was just stating I had the same thing as the previous poster.
     
  6. Aug 6, 2024 at 7:01 AM
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    Oh i am with you! I was honestly asking because i am waiting for them to come back in stock to order. It just peaked my interest.
     
  7. Aug 6, 2024 at 7:07 AM
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    Been chatting with a Pro owner on Facebook and he has been back and forth in the springs. He ordered the 21-22 springs after changing his mind from the 23-24 springs.
     
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  8. Aug 6, 2024 at 7:10 AM
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    I am going to try out the Westcott lift and just go from there. Going to wait for their black friday stuff and then just see how it goes. Have been contemplating just driving out to Arizona to let them do the install on the supercharger for me and their lift. We will see. I was hoping they would bring back the black friday sale they had last year on their labor rate but sounds like thats not likely.
     
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    Just make sure they are a dealer for the specific supercharger you get so you get the warranty.
     
  10. Aug 6, 2024 at 7:29 AM
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    They are. They are actually one of the highest volume installers on the 4Runner/Tundra. Only real requirement to maintain the warranty is to be an ASE certified mechanic.
     
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    Are you going with the larger lift they have? 2.5, I think?
     
  12. Aug 6, 2024 at 7:34 AM
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    I am going to stick with the regular lift. I asked them if installing the supercharger would push them to the taller front and they said no.
     
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    Very interested to see how it affects the ride height. You should hurry up and do it and let me know before I make final decision ;)
     
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    lol im trying for sure. This whole lift ordeal slowed me down. Its hard to keep looking at the supercharger sitting in a spare bedroom.
     
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    Looks like you've got a certified dealer in your backyard! Get that thing installed. Lift later :)

    CULVER AUTO SPECIALTIES


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    203 McCUTCHEON LOOP RD, LACEYS SPRING, AL, 35754, USA

    Phone: +1-256-882-2450
    Email: fastlane52@yahoo.com
    Website: www.culverautospecialties.com
     
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    Right down the road from me but not a shop where I would take my vehicles.
     
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    I keep going back and forth with this, as well. I was set on the Eibach 2.5in front springs and Wheelers 2.5 inch rear springs. After watching a video from Tinkerer’s Adventure, I want the Eibach 1.5/1 inch springs.
    https://youtu.be/BKc6t28L-5M?si=jzcsU0QpBdnW8AGX

    According to the Eibach, the 1.5 inch spring has a bottom diameter of 84mm. The 2.5 inch spring has a bottom diameter of 80mm. I wonder if that causes a problem.
     
  18. Aug 8, 2024 at 3:23 PM
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    Yea. No thanks. Good catch.
     
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    The guy I have been chatting with on Facebook is doing his own install and going with 21-22 springs. He also checked with Eibach and they said you can run the 21-22 springs and he does not want to be that high in the front. He will give me update after the install.
     
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    Very intrigued by this. Keep us updated on how it goes. I think I will give eibach a call tomorrow as well.
     
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    Also that diameter that was posted to the bottom of the springs it sounds like it would just make the 2.5 springs a bit stiffer. Both springs are going to lock into the bottom spacer. Should be no difference except the 2.5 is thicker.
     
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    This would make sense to me because Westcott didn’t make a specific kit for the 23-24 vehicles. It’s all the same for 21-24. And that preload collar engages directly with the spring. If they were different the preload collar would need to be redesigned as well. One would think at least.
     
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    But, it is different and on purpose…
     
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    Did the install on both the 21'-22' and 23'-24' front Eibach Pros on my 24'. Note: Rear springs are the same for both kits. Can't speak to the Fox shock valving/compression rate on the 21'-22's, but the spring rate was really soft with the 21'-22' Eibachs and 24' Fox shocks. The Apex points dropped the nose almost a 1/2" with the 21-22 springs. The Apex were just in stock a few weeks ago.

    23'-24' pro springs are just right with the firmness for my purposes. I'll get around to taking a few pics. Wednesday.
     
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    24' Pro with 23'-24' Eibach front and rear spring kit and Apex recovery points.

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    Actually looks really sharp. Tire size? First pictures I have seen of the new Eibach kit that I actually liked. Very nice man. If at all possible, any chance to get a picture straight on from the side? Also nice to see it on Underground. Love this color.
     
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    Interesting the 21-22 felt soft to you, mine felt MUCH firmer than the Pro springs. With the small top spacer it's prolly the height yours is now. Mine is at 22.75 center of hub which is perfect for me, what was your stock hub measurement?
     
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    It wallowed in the turns with the 21'-22' springs. After giving it a week and a half to settle, measurements now from center of wheel to wheel well lip is 23" front; 23 5/8" rear. The additional spacer you're running in front will change and compress the front spring rate making for a stiffer spring so not a true apples to apples comparison.
     
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    I'm running the stock size 265 B.F. Goodrich All Terrains (long, long time BFG user) @ 38 p.s.i. front and rear for normal day to day driving. I'll take a straight side shot tomorrow, but I don't feel I need to add a spacer to the back to increase the rake for appearance.
     
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    Yes that would be correct, but I ran the springs only for 6 months way before adding the space earlier this year and noticed the better, stiffer ride from the get. I could have gone with the new springs (and still could) but I added the spacer to fine tune ride height and extend the shock to give me more droop. Did you happen to note your hub height with OEM springs?
     

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