Any 2023 TRD Pro owners running Eibach lift springs?

Ride is great, felt stock springs were a bit soft for my liking. Had what I felt was a lot of corner roll. Solid and planted is what I would say. I also have FJ/Taco/2 Jeeps that they are all set up the same as far as ride. This feels good.

 

I got the same story from Eibach and Apex Overland that the geometry wasn’t enough to require UCAs so I’m not discounting their response I just didn’t want to risk something on the edge.

 

What year is your 4runner? Is this the new 2.5" eibach lift springs?

 

2024/yes

 

Good to hear on the ride quality. Had always heard the Eibach setups were great from a ride perspective. Feel this kit would be perfect if you were heavy in the front with skids and heavy bumper.

 

Thank you for the pics. I know it’s hard to tell by pics. You can tell better in person.

 

Which UCA’s did you go with. Mine are still stock with my westcott. I don’t plan on changing mine out. But curious what you went with.

 

Freedom off-road, highly recommended OEM style bushings/ball joint single grease fitting not highly adjustable but have my caster correction I wanted.

 

Just some heads up. But you probably know. I had to adjust my head lights down blinding everyone. I think with that being even more nose high it will be happening.

 

Yep, thanks

 

205 Eibach 184 OE. From Eibach, front no change.

 

Need them for what? To achieve OEM caster specs? Many if not most here haven't changed our UCA's on small lifts. Caster isn't structural or a tire wearing angle. It affects feel, handling and return to center, that's why it's expressed in a wider range. Once you stray from factory engineered geometry by raising your vehicle, those OEM specs are merely a baseline and no longer apply. It's exactly like tire pressure, the specs on the door are carefully designed for the OEM tire size, sidewall, and tread design. When you change tire structure/size the door placard recommendation no longer applies and it's up to you to figure out what pressure to run. Running a degree less caster has zero affect on any safety aspect most notice no difference in handling at all.

 

Yep. You nailed it. The limit has seemed to be around 1.5-2” front lift and still being able to maintain proper caster. This lift seems to surpass that up front into the realm where most kits recommend UCAs. But sure, you can always “get by” without if you want. Just would be less than ideal. For some.

 

I really want to see someone post their caster numbers after the lift. Just to compare with my westcott. When I had my 20 Pro with Eibachs and the 1.4 had no rubbing issues after removing mudflaps and adding the Rockbloz mudflaps. My westcott rubs only passenger side at full lock on the body mount.

 

Yeah only passenger side and that’s why a lot stay with the oem wheel. The SCS wheel with the -10 offset pushes the wheel out more. I believe westcott even mentions as long as you stay with the oem wheel you only need to remove the mudflaps. That’s why I liked the Eibach springs because the caster numbers a little better on my 20 Pro. Also the Mickey’s seem really big for a 285.

 

Everything is almost like Pro’s and con’s everything you do. With the wider wheel stand and the westcott lift I can take the back roads much faster without body lean and handles well. Lol.

 

Yeah the down fall to that size not much to choose from and not much difference between the 265 plus the price is much more.

 

I guess it makes sense because with the eibach springs since you didn't change the range of travel. The shocks will still max out at the same location. But if you have added tophat spacers(wd lift) you moved the travel range down. Which then the geometry isn't the same and uca might be necessary. Am I thinking about that correctly?

 

They both do it. Up travel is limited by bump stop and down travel is limited by shock extension. Whether you use a spacer or a stiffer spring the effect is the same, you are raising where the truck sits neutrally and giving up some down travel.


The only way to get more total travel up front is switching out for long travel shocks. Tinkers adventure YouTube has a nice video on this, you can only go something like 1” longer before you start binding (I forget what hit first, either the UCA against the strut or the CV angle maxed out).

 

I'm putting on larger wheels/tires (SCS 9x17 -38 and 285/70/17). But I have a '21 TRD Pro. I was going to move to completely new coilovers but then I saw the WD spacers and Eibach replacement springs. The new springs seems like a better option. I know this thread is for '23 TRD Pros, but I wanted to confirm if anybody knows, how their springs for the '21 compare? They're listed as 1.4" and 1.0" F/R lift. Do those seem to have a good track record? I'm still on the fence with a completely new suspension. But I figure for $400, it's not a bad option to try before committing to a whole new setup.

Also, no additional added weight. No metal bumpers, tent, fridge, etc. Just the occasional luggage in back.

 

Mine were fine on my 20 AG Pro when I had it with 285’s and the lift was the same height.

 

This is with the new springs. He said he got 3 inches in the front instead of 2.5 Also running 285’s.

 

Did he put the rear on also, mine is no where near that rake.

 

Yes. I also cannot believe he has no rubbing. I asked him.

 

What is the deal with the Rockbolz flaps...besides being expensive?

 

Yes they are a little pricey but if you want to run flaps they fit tight to the body lines of the 4runner so much less chance of your tire rub.

 

Did you go w the Eibach 1” rears or 2” Icons?

 

I got a quick question... how much lift do you think the trd pro rear shocks can handle with still having decent down travel?

 

Eibach 1”

 

How are you liking the new Eibach lift?