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Any 2023 TRD Pro owners running Eibach lift springs?

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010-2024)' started by UATahoe, Jan 2, 2024.

  1. Sep 9, 2024 at 1:55 PM
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    Overall ride quality better with the Eibach over the Westcott?
     
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    Everyone will have a different answer on that. If you like the Pro ride now then you want to stay with the westcott. For me I prefer the ride with the Eibach cause it’s more stiffer and the specs work out better for what size tie and wheel I’m running. I will be able to give a better update when I get some miles on it with this lift. I know I’m not going back. For me I feel I made the correct choice. Hope this helps.
     
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    It’s interesting because most have said the exact opposite. That the Westcott was much more firm and that the Eibach was much more complimentary to the Fox suspension.
     
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    The Eibach have a higher spring rate, so should be stiffer.
     
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    Here is some info. One owner on Facebook did the same springs on his 24 and wishes he did not change out his UCA’s. He told me plans on removing them. No need for them on the Eibach springs. Yes with the higher springs rate it will make them a bit stiffer.
     
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    From the info I gathered, the front springs have the same spring rate as factory. The eibach rears are 205lbs which I believe the stock rears are 180lbs.

    The only aftermarket spring I found with a lower spring rate is wheelers t13(1.5"lift) and 195lbs.

    When I go to lift my 4runner. I'll be using the eibach Fronts, with wheeler rears.
     
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    Forgot to ask you… did you do a center hub to fender measurement comparison?
     
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    Yes I did. My westcott before removing it was 23 front at the hub and rear was 24 to the fender. Now with the Eibach it’s so close about a 1/8 front and rear lower. Visually looking at it does not look as high but I think it will settle in about a month or 2. My 20 Pro did the same thing.
     
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    They may have the same spring rate but it’s definitely stiffer than the Pro. It’s hard to explain unless you did what I did to compare.
     
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    Does it feel stiffer all around(front and rear) or just the rear?

    Do you have any added weight?

    My old eibach pro truck setup rode stiff and I definitely don't want that again
     
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    Here is another second opinion. The guy I have been in touch with he has 24 Terra pro and he said the same thing it’s just a little stiffer then the Pro and he said he cannot really tell much of a difference but likes it better. Now that’s from going from the stock Pro to the Eibach. Yes it feels stiffer all around. I have not tested any added weight. I will when I hook up my Buddy trailer.
     
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    Just got done adding my Rockbloz mudflaps. I like having flaps on the front because those big tires throw stuff up. I could not add them when I had the westcott. Loving it now. IMG_5424.jpg
     
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    How's that ride doing?
     
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    Doing great. It settled just a little but happy with it. After the lift it was 23 from the hub to fender front and now 22.75. The rear still at 24 which is good. Especially when I put my buddy’s trailer on even tho it not much weight.
     
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    Awesome! Need to go ahead and get my set ordered.
     
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    I just got something in the mail today…

    IMG_1570.jpg
     
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    Oh boy let the fun begin! Lol. Glad you got your new springs.
     
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    If anyone wants a Wescott lift used for 6 months, let me know. It was fine, no complaints. But purchased it, hoping that the Eibach 1.4 would be officially sold for the ‘24. Now it is. Probably will swap them in the next couple of weeks. Don promised me daily updates on his until I install mine. ;)
     
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    I actually hadn’t noticed that is specifically available on the Eibach website now for the 2023-2024 models. I feel like we made that happen. Lol.
     
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    can confirm i bought these and they are great, i did notice the smallest rake in the front might be literally a smidge higher then the rear. However i think once you put on a heavy front bumper it will even out. I know a lot of 23-24 owners run the 21 front springs that are a tad lower. However it is almost impossible to notice unless you really inspect from certain angles or i tell you. Either way, once i put a front bumper on im sure it will be fine and dandy! But just a heads up to people if they are super OCD about the front rake, i will try to post some photos if anyone needs. Im not sure if i went back if i would do the 23/24 springs but with the amount for install and such and im happy with the ride quality. Id like to find one in person with roughly same tire size and the 21 springs to really see the difference though.
     
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    Just to confirm… you’re saying you have the 1.4 front springs and the 1 inch rear springs and you have a reverse rake?
     
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    Sounds like you went the taller springs that Eibach released that raised the front over 2 inches.
     
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    Yes he needs to post a pic. You can definitely see the difference in height between the springs.
     
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    Yea I agree. I know a handful of us were going back and forth with them.
     
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    This last time I called, could tell the guy had received my questions many times. lol. Even said “yeah, I have been getting these questions a lot lately”. lol
     
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    Was chatting with an owner on Facebook and she added the 2.5 springs on her 24 Pro. She told me it was very floaty but then left me know she traded it in for a new tundra.
     
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    the front sits tad higher. Depending on angle you can see it. From research I’ve done with aftermarket bumper it should be perfectly level. If I knew you could run the older year springs I’d maybe go back and do that. But it looks pretty sweet. My TRD is in shop getting some goodies installed. When I get it back I’ll try to take a lot of photos and post them here.
     
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    It cut down the float compared to stock. But it still felt drivable and not rattling your teeth like a super duty truck. And I have e rated tires. It firms it up a bit. But like I said I have e rated your experience might be different but I love it.
     
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    Sounds good. Yeah I don’t have any plans to add a heavy front bumper on mine so that’s one reason I stayed with the 21-22 springs and also I did not want to be that high cause of the alignment specs I was getting with my westcott I would have been in the same boat cause of the wheel specs I’m running. Mine rides good also cause I’m running stand load tire with 285’s.
     
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    Does anyone have any additional photos?

    Picking up our new 24 Trd Pro 4R next week and still trying to decide on the eibach 1.4 vs. 2.5.

    Still on the fence... thanks gents!
     

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