6th gen Speculation Thread

Does it all come from coal?

I thought we had a couple of other sources as well.

 

Im assuming the owner lived somewhere that burned coal. If I had one I would put a “runs on natural gas” sticker on it as that’s where most of our power heat comes from.
“Runs on unicorn tears” would also be a good sticker.

 

Coal is a minority power source in most of the country (maybe Midwest has the most, can't remember).

There's a nice interactive EPA map, that I may have even linked in this thread the last time the discussion turned this way.

 

https://www.4runners.com/threads/6th-gen-speculation-thread.20634/page-52#post-549079

Found it

 

Only one way to find out. Although, you won’t really know until year 4, bc dealers have enough inventory sitting on lots to last 2-3 years!

 

Yeah, bc I’d much rather support the small biz coal industry! Doh!

 

I live in a big wide open state with clean air and small towns. We don’t worry about emissions, clean air, and we have no EV chargers.

You think I’m joking.

 

That's the neat thing about electricity, we're pros at turning everything into it.

Coal? You got it. Wind? Sure. Twenty people on bikes? It'll technically work!

But not gonna be a worry for this generation, maybe we can get the 7th gen speculation thread going in several years.

 

Side bar: imagine having breakfast with the family, and I walk in with a hammer and start smacking the table at 2 second intervals, all day long.
Offshore drilling and the vast wind farms that are being built in our oceans is literally driving marine mammals insane. Throw in several thousand freighters crossing a section of ocean, and it would be like living in a quarry..
I lived a half mile from a bridge project for a year. Not only could I hear it, I could feel it in the walls and floors. Wind isn't as clean as the gov would have you think. And they look like ass.
https://youtube.com/shorts/NbJZS6zku30?si=CSC-B8-3KcRyJYPt

 

Climate change’s march forward is going to be bad for wildlife on a scale that makes the local marine life look like a drop in the bucket (or we could limit it to just all arctic, antarctic wildlife) so you’ll have to pick your poison.

A small, localized talking point that only comes up to crap on certain energy generation methods or a huge systemic issue that’s going to screw us all, animals included? (I’ve seen folks talk about bird strikes on wind turbines like it’s some government conspiracy but they put the numbers up publicly, resilience and an energy mix are factors too.)

If it really was about marine life and saving energy we’d be switching to heat pumps in homes, driving Yaris’s and Bolts en masse, etc.

 

Yep snow will be a thing of the past and Florida will be underwater.
SMH at 62 years old I've been hearing this since they flipped on their narrative of a new ice age coming. It became global warming after scientists declared the earth Temps were rising, blowing up their ice age schtick. Now they just purchase their studies to reflect the narrative.

 

Yeah, people like to shit on windmills specifically, but gloss over all of the environmental impacts related to fossil fuels, like coal mining, coal power plants, and of course oil drilling (although the previous poster actually mentioned an issue with offshore drilling, but pretended it was the windmill's fault).

Does anyone remember the Deepwater Horizon incident?

 

This kind of attitude is like claiming cigarettes are good for you, which the companies and paid-off politicians said for decades.

There is overwhelming evidence for climate change (I know, I know, empirical evidence has fallen out of fashion with the masses).

The only people denying it are those who can make money now by doing so, and those people they've suckered into believing their narrative. Which sucks, because believe it or not, it's going to affect us all.

It's like saying you don't believe in gravity; it doesn't change the end result.

 

Lock the thread. No skin here if people dont want to face facts that alternative energy is not as rosy as advertised.
I have not forgotten the deep water horizon, I live in Florida. Just because I am questioning a new unstudied type of energy extraction, does not mean I agree with, or forget the disasters the fossil fuel industry has caused. That should be the lesson here. Don't just take their word for it that alt energy is completely safe and clean.

 

I'm out of here before we all get banned, have a good weekend everybody.

 

Good deal man, thanks for following up on that.

 

We are being lied to every single day. Stop believing your magic little screen box headlines and do some research people. This is exactly why the fossil fuel industry had its way for 100 years.

 

You gotta break some eggs some times. Every hear about the migraines caused by wind farm low end frequencies? Probably not because the news ain't talking about it, and the proximity of large communities near the farms isn't prevalent yet.

 

See that right there is what the problem is, you just assumed I pretended it's the windmills fault? SMH AGAIN. Why would I even mention offshore drilling if I was pretending it's the wind mills fault? Everyone knows the drill platforms were the first to do this in the deep ocean. So if I had an agenda, why wouldn't I be like the msm and just dismiss it. That's the point again that keeps getting pushed aside, we HAVE seen this type of narrative before with fossil fuels. That's why it aggravates me that everyone is so brainwashed that alternative energy is SO clean, because the TV tells me it is. Hopefully one day it will be. How much fossil fuel clean technology has been dismissed by oil corps because it might cut into profits? Or it didn't fit a certain advocacy group or government narrative?
One Lear jet trip across the pond offsets your EV carbon foot print for a year. All the shipping containers being transported across the ponds is doing way more damage than my V8 4Runner, but the EV proponents will blame ice vehicles while they drive their EV to IKEA to buy their living room suit that just rolled off a freighter from China.
Remember the inversion layer off the coast of California when the ports were closed and the big diesels were just sitting there idling for weeks?

 

Can’t be any worse then offshore oil drilling. No risk of a massive oil spill either.

 

Ive seen these farms from 30k feet. Massive areas of ocean with dozens of mills. Way more pilings in a wind farm. So pick your poison. Like I said, it's not all as green as it's purported.

 

it's a popular thing to have those bumper stickers on an EV. See it quite a bit.

 

Anyone here think the new V6 Honda Trailsport could hurt 6th gen sales?

I know it's a unibody crossover, but with its V6, off-road capability, and lower price point it will definitely make it very attractive.

 

Not very rugged looking compared to 6th gen.

How much lower price point?

 

From what I read seems like mid $40s

 

The unibody is a hard no for enthusiasts. Your average soccer mom doesn't care about that but they do care about how the vehicle looks.

This one looks fine, but still pretty bland.

I don't know how big it is but a better comparison would be to the Rav4 or Highlander.

Do Rav4 or Highlander owners care about a NA V6? Nope......they are more into mpgs.

 

I think the Passport will sell just fine to the buying public as another do-everything crossover and Subaru-alternative. Solid capability for what it is I expect.

it’ll probably continue to hang around in the Pilot’s shadow though being a two-row.

Styling’s solid if a tad “big Bronco Sport”, they’re still almost full-size wide but so is the new Tacoma and 4Runner.

 

I think so. Most owners aren’t taking it off-road anyways. Isn’t that a Pro in the photo? The non pros will look less aggressive and more similar to the passport too.

 

Honda Trailsport

46-56

 

for me its about the ruggedness of the platform for day to day driving during winters up here in ND. snow ruts, un even paths from not being plowed, hidden potholes, etc.

so a unibody is a hard pass for me for my driving style. i am usually on the road going to work before the plows