6th gen Speculation Thread

Isn’t this a 6th gen 4Runner thread?

 

We are also talking the potential effects on import tariffs on the general market.

You’re expecting production of US-assembled vehicles to just increase resulting in no price increase of US-assembled vehicles. It’s not that simple as I’ve elaborated on.

That said, I do hope you’re right in that “Everything will be OK”.

 

Is this your first election cycle?

 

LAWL

 

Something that will be interesting to see is if these tariffs (if it even happens) will increase the prices of vehicles by more or less than inflation did over the last few years.

 

Don't forget the cost of complying with the next round of MPG and emissions targets

 

Also no modern medicine or dentistry, no year round fresh fruit, vegetables, or meat, no refrigerators or central heating/AC. No clean air or water in cities, no indoor toilet.

And no cars much less 4runners unless we want to count the Carl Benz motorized bench seat thingy that arrived near the end of the century.

 

It used to be. But it's about dirty air in the 19th century now.

 

At least the 6th gen will save the world with lower emissions from its little engine.

 

Exactly…keep up people! These threads move fast!

Don’t turbos with direct injection burn “cleaner” at the expense of generating much more fine particulates. Those particulates remain suspended, just like coal dust and coal smoke…which leads to black lung….aaaand that brings us right back to 19th century. See that’s how these threads work.

 

Speaking of coal... I'm a big fan. Huge fan. Particularly when it comes to electric vehicles.

 

Coal fired steam-turbine electric generators! Yes! That combines just about everything great about the 19th century, including pressure vessels! And outfitting it with a steam whistle would be a no brainer!

 

A few weeks ago I saw a Tesla in a parking lot that had a bumper sticker that read:

Powered By Coal

It made me laugh out loud. It also made me wonder what kind of owner would put that on their Tesla. Someone with a sense of humor I guess.

 

I'm guessing it's some guy who is politically opposed to EV's but whose wife told him to get one.

 

Or he's just telling the truth.

 

Or it's both.

Or something else.

 

Or he likes the performance of an EV and not giving money to big oil and isn’t pretending where the electricity is coming from.

 

Chief of DOGE supporter i guess

 

Does it all come from coal?

I thought we had a couple of other sources as well.

 

Im assuming the owner lived somewhere that burned coal. If I had one I would put a “runs on natural gas” sticker on it as that’s where most of our power heat comes from.
“Runs on unicorn tears” would also be a good sticker.

 

Coal is a minority power source in most of the country (maybe Midwest has the most, can't remember).

There's a nice interactive EPA map, that I may have even linked in this thread the last time the discussion turned this way.

 

https://www.4runners.com/threads/6th-gen-speculation-thread.20634/page-52#post-549079

Found it

 

Only one way to find out. Although, you won’t really know until year 4, bc dealers have enough inventory sitting on lots to last 2-3 years!

 

Yeah, bc I’d much rather support the small biz coal industry! Doh!

 

I live in a big wide open state with clean air and small towns. We don’t worry about emissions, clean air, and we have no EV chargers.

You think I’m joking.

 

That's the neat thing about electricity, we're pros at turning everything into it.

Coal? You got it. Wind? Sure. Twenty people on bikes? It'll technically work!

But not gonna be a worry for this generation, maybe we can get the 7th gen speculation thread going in several years.

 

Climate change’s march forward is going to be bad for wildlife on a scale that makes the local marine life look like a drop in the bucket (or we could limit it to just all arctic, antarctic wildlife) so you’ll have to pick your poison.

A small, localized talking point that only comes up to crap on certain energy generation methods or a huge systemic issue that’s going to screw us all, animals included? (I’ve seen folks talk about bird strikes on wind turbines like it’s some government conspiracy but they put the numbers up publicly, resilience and an energy mix are factors too.)

If it really was about marine life and saving energy we’d be switching to heat pumps in homes, driving Yaris’s and Bolts en masse, etc.

 

Yeah, people like to shit on windmills specifically, but gloss over all of the environmental impacts related to fossil fuels, like coal mining, coal power plants, and of course oil drilling (although the previous poster actually mentioned an issue with offshore drilling, but pretended it was the windmill's fault).

Does anyone remember the Deepwater Horizon incident?

 

This kind of attitude is like claiming cigarettes are good for you, which the companies and paid-off politicians said for decades.

There is overwhelming evidence for climate change (I know, I know, empirical evidence has fallen out of fashion with the masses).

The only people denying it are those who can make money now by doing so, and those people they've suckered into believing their narrative. Which sucks, because believe it or not, it's going to affect us all.

It's like saying you don't believe in gravity; it doesn't change the end result.

 

I'm out of here before we all get banned, have a good weekend everybody.