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5th gen or 6th gen or Land Cruiser

Discussion in 'General 4Runner Talk' started by Redaunt, Jan 18, 2025.

  1. Jan 19, 2025 at 3:28 PM
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    Borracho Loco

    Borracho Loco My 4Runner identifies as a Prius!

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    Oooh look, another mod.....
    The new Land Cruiser has gotten SO much bad press and negative feedback, that I think they'll change/upgrade the power train for the 2026 year. Hopefully, Toyota will wise up and put the V6 in it.
     
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  2. Jan 19, 2025 at 3:41 PM
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    V6, Lol.

    They're not changing the drivetrain. They might do some fine tuning, though.

    I haven't heard much actual user feedback, but I suspect it's not really as bad as the YouTube media makes it sound.
     
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  3. Jan 19, 2025 at 3:45 PM
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    FourBelugas

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    They can't change it after one year without looking like they got caught phoning it in, and the supply chain for 2026 is already well underway since we are only 6 months away from 26 MY production starts to get on the ship and be delivered by early fall. Plus all the certification with the US Feds can't be rushed.

    Any change will come for maybe the 28MY.
     
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  4. Jan 19, 2025 at 3:49 PM
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    I don’t anticipate much changing about the LC Prado other than Toyota shifting production volume and a higher price to the GX550. It’s turned into a marketing game to squeeze as much money as possible from buyers.
     
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  5. Jan 19, 2025 at 3:52 PM
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    FourBelugas

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    True, if the anticipated LC250 buyers migrate up to the GX then expect another sizeable price bump next year on the GX550.
     
  6. Jan 19, 2025 at 4:16 PM
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    I think if sales tank due to the 4Runner and GX that they will just kill off the LandCruiser again.
     
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  7. Jan 19, 2025 at 4:34 PM
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    icebear

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    I concur, how many folks are going to get in the driver's seat with direct driving experience from a 200-series and expect what Jason Cammisa called "effortlessness"? (I think)

    I heard at least some of what he meant when the hood was open but in any other 0-60 video, it sounds like a 4-cylinder to me.
     
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  8. Jan 19, 2025 at 5:38 PM
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    deltabravo WUBBA LUBBA DUB DUB!!!!1!

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    Get a 5th Gen. Anyone who argues is crazy
     
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  9. Jan 19, 2025 at 7:07 PM
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    That will never happen.

    If one wants a V6, Toyota has more expensive vehicles to sell you.
     
  10. Jan 31, 2025 at 1:46 PM
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    Compare parts availability and cost…..Grenadier and 4Runner.
     
  11. Jan 31, 2025 at 1:59 PM
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    The prices for the new vehicles are just outrageous to me.....and they don't seem to have any signs to go any lower or even stabilizing. I have wondered around looking online for the GX and the Landcruiser and then....I say...why pay these figures when the 5th Gen is barely broken in at 60K. So I am staying put for several more years with blue tank.
     
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    Being seen at the little league games, work parking lot and garage, and church in a latest gen 4R is a status symbol to white collar workers these days. Never underestimate people's desire to look "4Runner smart".
     
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  13. Jan 31, 2025 at 3:20 PM
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    When I was younger Gen 3 4Runner Limiteds and J80-J100 Land Cruisers were stealth wealth vehicles in my area. They were always there but they never stood out.
     
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    I know the "stealth wealth" thing has been making its rounds on social media last few years, but those vehicles were always known as expensive, everyone who ever stepped inside a Toyota dealership and window shopped window stickers would know that the Land Cruisers were 3+ times the price of contemporary Camrys and 4-5 times the price of Corollas. The 4Runners were not far behind.


    When I was younger the truly well off people I knew, as in people who invested well and didn't have to work past age 40 or so, drove around in normal cars like Avalons, Civics and Accords, they considered the likes of Land Cruisers to be unnecessary and ostentatious humble brags. The real stealth at the time was XLE Camrys and Avalons with interior that looked like Benzes but exterior looked like any other car. Even the LS400 was considered cars for dentists who had to keep a day job
     
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  15. Jan 31, 2025 at 3:49 PM
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    Yes. But the people in my area weren’t overextending themselves just to look cool. And they certainly weren’t built out like the mall crawlers you see now. They were mostly stock and bland looking.
     
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    That is true, you have a good point there.
     
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    Or a 2021 Land Cruiser with an even less optional mpg than a 4Runner?
     
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    the LC250/hybrid 4Rs will probably get a bit better mileage around town, but we will have to let those with the hybrid drivetrain verify.

    On the highway, it's going to depend on how one drives. Once that turbo spools all bets are off.
     
  19. Jan 31, 2025 at 5:52 PM
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    The Land Cruiser was such a low volume vehicle I doubt even 95% of the buying populace knew it existed.
     
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