4runner vs the new Ford bronco

Right. That's the Sport. Totally different vehicle than the new Bronco. 100% different. Smaller and unibody.

 

I believe the Bronco "Sport" is to compete with the Jeep Renegade, which does seem to be popular with women.

Rick

 

So? The Bronco Sport is more like a Rav4. 181 HP and 190 LB/FT is plenty for that little thing.

And, that's completely irrelevant to this thread as this thread is to discuss the new Bronco, not the Bronco Sport.

@VentureTRD - ^^^^this^^^^

 

yup my wife wants the robins egg blue one..........meh

 

Yep looks like a kia

 

Ford is partially to blame for the confusion between the bronco, which is a true off-road vehicle, and the bronco sport, which is a crossover.

Supply chain problems and other delays pushed back the bronco release date, so they just started acting like the bronco and the bronco sport are the same thing to try to make up for lost sales.

When I put my deposit down for the bronco, the first thing that happened was the Ford dealer called me and started pushing me to buy the bronco sport which was already available on the lot. So the blame goes all around.

I ultimately canceled my reservation because I found out you cannot get the manual transmission and Sasquatch for the 2021 model year.

I may revisit my decision to buy one in the future.

 

Oh no. Now you won't be able to trade cars if necessary. LOLO

Rick

 

This is the Bronco I want. This one is in jay Lenos collection and has a Ford Cobra engine in it. Great looking truck& fast too!

 

I had a 1977 Bronco for five years in my twenties and a 1976 Bronco for 1.5 years in my 40's. Almost 60 now and would love to have that 77 Ranger back - my favorite vehicle that I ever owned!

 

Not sure if anyone posted this but the TRDOR looked really good up against the Bronco,

 

So Toyota wins with its traction control but loses with towing.

God forbid we have to ask for help from a Ford driver.

I would have liked to see how a SR5 with ATRAC performed on those runs. I realize that videos and pictures don't always capture the actual features like being there, but the runs didn't look that hard to me.

The recovery demonstration was a different story though.

 

There is an ATRAC run in his 4Runner review;

 

Cool, thanks, I'll check it out.

 

Look like ATRAC worked well for him.

 

Back in the early 1970's a friend of mine owned one of these. A 1966 Bronco with a 289 V-8 and a manual transmission - three on a tree. He drove it over many logging trails in southern Missouri. It would handle most anything we put it through.

 

Posted an hour ago, bronco vs trd pro... off road comparison video(p2) drops in a coupla days

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUBZSRAXrag

 

The 289 was a good engine.

 

I wonder how much Toyota cutting production will help Ford sell these

 

My guess is not much. IMHO, Ford people are Ford people and Toyota fans are Toyota fans, generally speaking.

Based on my personal experience with Ford and Toyota. Even if Toyota shuttered their business, I'd rather ride a bike than spend a dime on a Ford. Yes, I am bitter with my previous Ford experience.

 

I don't think Broncos are going to be any easier to come by, so my guess is it won't help Ford at all.

 

Still a Kia soul to me

 

The Bronco? Or the Bronco sport? Because there's a huge difference.

As far as off-road badassery, the Bronco should run circles around any 4Runner due to 35's stock and being engineered to truly compete with the Wrangler.

As far as everyday use, I bet the 4Runner is still nicer, aside from the Ford's power advantage.


I think the Sport was designed to compete with the Jeep Renegade and maybe the TRD RAV4.

 

Both the body looks like a Kia soul

 

A Kia Soul that can school your PRO off-road in the case of the actual Bronco.

They have a lot of bugs to work out, but they look awesome (aside from the crappy looking fender flares).

Opinions aside, I hope this drives Toyota to make the 6th gen 4Runner more off-road oriented. The 5th gen is badass, but having to regear and hack the shit out of it for 35's is definitely going to push some folks towards a Wrangler or Bronco. It would be kick-ass if they could maintain the everyday comfort while making it even more trail-worthy.

 

Yeah, I'm probably dreaming a bit.

My thought is that with the Highlander being basically the CUV version of the 4Runner, it should enable them to make the 4Runner more rugged and leave the Highlander to the pavement oriented crowd.

But, I'm sure their number crunchers will ultimately decide which way they go. I'm a little disappointed with Toyota as a whole recently. Having other companies build vehicles and slapping your logo on them seems more like a GM thing to me. But, look at the Subaru 86 and BMW ( ) Supra. Weak, IMO.

 

The old saying "there's no free lunch" applies to our 5th gens.

My guess is that we enjoy a much more comfortable ride on the highway than the jeep and current broncos.

If Toyota took steps toward the jeep and broncos, we may have to give up some comfort. Maybe?

 

Agreed. The balance of off-road capability and everyday comfort is pretty perfect for my needs. I just wonder if Toyota could do even better if they really tried. But, I'm sure they're limited by safety and emissions standards.

 

I think the bronco will be another flash in the pan for ford...remember the t-bird?

Looks gimmicky and too soft plus it's a Ford and that's a no go for me.