2025 6th gen 4Runner Official Reveal Thread

transmission already has a tsb and people are needing a complete replacement, no bumpstop, rear brake line is designed where it will rub against the rotor not to mention the problems you’ll get with the turbo

 

wrong transmission is a design flaw the twin turbo v6 blowing up wasn’t due to machining debris they did r&d in Michigan and didn’t make the tolerances tight enough (source my Toyota engineer buddy who helped design the Tacoma) don’t believe every lie Toyota tells you

 

There is no twin turbo in the Tacoma or the 4Runner.

Sorry, I don’t believe the transmission is a global design flaw. There would be a lot of Tacomas reporting issues, and they simply aren’t.

You two are the ones spreading lies. You might want to stop.

 

They're referring to the Tundra 3.4TT - however if the problem is resolved after the engine replacement and in subsequent years, I will be inclined to believe Toyota is being forthright especially with the proactive replacement/recall. Same grace I'm giving Honda too for their 3.5 crankshaft recall since the numbers are so statistically low. People talk of about how those two are all ruined now because X or Y but these are rookie numbers.

I have in contrast, memory of Hyundai/Kia's response who put out a similar excuse - but needed to be sued first before replacing engines en masse and the problems never truly went away in the decade they used their Theta II in both N/A and turbo forms.

Anyways, I think talk of "reliability" has gone in circles here and nothing to do now but wait.

 

I know that. But it has zero to do with the 4Runner or the Tacoma. Both of them are just trolling and attempting to spread fear into potential 4Runner buyers. It’s really uncool.

 

The 2.4T and the 8 speed transmission have only been in truck usage for less than one model year and many of them are still sitting on dealer lots since a lot of 2024 calendar year sales are the 2023 models.

The transmission is a known issue so you can't really accuse them of spreading lies.

 

Not for 120,000 Tacomas, and for zero 4Runners. So yes I can. They are trolling and you know it.

 

How is it bullshit if those are all well documented issues?

 

I say to hell with the 6th Gen 4Runner. We need to band together and go buy Honda Ridgelines!

 

You think 120,000 4th gen Tacos are in consumer hands being driven as we speak?

If you believe that then you don't under stand how car sales work. Up until July or August or so there were still 2023 models in my area so I know a large portion of the 2024 calendar year consists of 3rd gen sales.

 

Well it is obviously bullshit because he says it is, just like how anyone mentioning tranny issues are all trolls, no exceptions.

Geez brah, get with the program.

 

Of course not. But it is not as widespread as the trolls want you to think. Especially on a 4Runner forum. That’s completely unfounded.

 

I'm not sure calling people trolls is going to help you cause when you acknowledge yourself that it is a known issue, and neither Pavo nor Ferguson said "wide spread", just that these are documented issues.

I had no idea 2024 Tacomas had a trim called "Off Road Premium".

 

I don’t know how many transmissions failed but it must have been quite a bit for Toyota to issue a TSB about it.

 

In my experience Toyota is just as reluctant as Stellantis to roll out TSBs and only does so when pressed hard.

It took them about 5 years to say something about the oil consumption problem of the last 2.4 I4 they made for the US market, which is why I hold a wait-and-see attitude at people assuring us here that "T24A has been tested and no issues" when Tacos only had it for less than a year and we have no idea what usage pattern and warranty stats are like on it.

 

It’s a term in common usage. Short for premium package with all the doo dads that come with it. But you already knew that. Blame Toyota for their model and trim level inconsistencies.

Out of 170,000 2024 Tacomas sold, how many do you think are on the road? How many VINs are covered by the Tacoma transmission TSB?

How many are 2025 4Runners? NONE, which makes the whole discussion moot.

 

I like to go into every purchase knowing all the possible problems. Since the Tacoma and 4Runner both have the same engine and transmission it seems pretty relevant to me.

 

No, Off Road Premium has never been used to describe a 4th gen Taco Trim. It's just you.

I suspect you already know that any sales figure contains units sold to dealers and have not found buyers yet.

You are not making any sense but it's okay. You likely wrote a big check for your Tacoma "Off Road Premium" so I understand you may be a little defensive.

 

But see, 0 recalls on the 2025 4Runners so he obviously won the internet and everyone who doesn't give him "likes" are just trolls.

But if I were him and spent a minimum of 53k on a Taco "ORP" I would want to see praises too.

https://www.toyota.com/configurator...bap_guid=d993d628-546f-43f0-bfbf-0aab7c1bd1a3

 

I had to go and build it and I guess now people are acutally paying at least 53k for a so called "ORP" Taco built in mexico. Once options are added it's gonna get close to a 60k truck.

 

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...^^^... Sounds like the SET Cartel

 

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I think the Gen 5 4Runners will be the next classics in a few years (like the LC 200).

 

Nah, too slow, too antiquated, too under powered, too simple, too whatever according to the brain trust on this forum

 

In order to be a "classic", it has to be limited in numbers. 1.47 million 5th gen 4Runners sold, vs. less than 108k LC200 and LX570 combined. There will be plenty of used 5th gens to buy/resell.

While we are keeping count, the 3rd gen Tacoma sold 1.8 million in 8 years, making it the most popular Toyota truck in the history of western civilization.

 

With so many people putting on 25k+ miles a year on their 5th gens, it won't take long for numbers to dwindle from wear, aging, crashes, etc.

Look at how hard clean 3rd gen 4Rs have been to find in the past 5 years even though they were selling at similar annual numbers for 8 model years.

 

I'm OK with a shitload being sold. I didn't buy the 5th gen for it to become a moneymaking classic. With that many sold, hopefully parts will be available for quite a long time after sales stop

 

^Yep, widespread parts availability and support know-how contributed to my choice of vehicles as well.

 

3rd gens have been discontinued for 22 years. Lol imagine trying to find a 5th gen in 2046. Probably need to buy gasoline in small cans in boutique stores by then.

 

I think they will be similar to an XJ Cherokee which there were around 3 million made. It took around 20 years after they stopped being produced and the help of Matts Off-road Recovery to make them cool again.