2025 6th gen 4Runner Official Reveal Thread

I mean it’s not even remotely close when you see the dyno graphs. It has a much higher torque peak and pretty much right off idle. The combination will feel much more powerful than the outgoing V6 for how most people drive these things even without the electric motor.

 

I’m mostly worried about its performance at highway speeds in wind. MPG tanked in that regard in my 3rd gen Tacoma vs my 2nd gen Tacoma. Because the power band wouldn’t allow it to hold 5th. So I actually got worse MPG with the “new and improved” engine. I was expecting improved MPG and in my particular use case I didn’t get it.

 

The 2.4 should be right in its torque band at highway cruising speeds. I'm sure it's going to be awhile before we see what actual mileage people get. But, it should be better since the 2.4 won't have to downshift as much.

 

The new turbo creates peak torque so low that you don’t need to be downshifting and revving super high to be able to keep it moving or accelerating. My current Tacoma and previous 4Runner engines need to rev much higher and downshift 1 or 2 gears anytime I want to accelerate in the mountains, going uphill, making a passing maneuver. Not so with this turbo in the latest Taco 4th Gen and soon the be 4Runner 6th Gen.

 

Have you driven a 24 taco yet?

 

im sure it will feel much better to drive no doubt. Mileage should be a bit better but don’t expect miracles - remember you have to burn more fuel to make more power, the revs may be low but if you are accelerating hard the throttle will be open and the injectors flowing more fuel (or it’s coming from electric motor assist, but then the battery will need to be recharged when you come off throttle or brake)

 

Yeah I mean it’s not gonna get the gas mileage of a 2.4 liter 4 cylinder. It’s boosted so has synthetic displacement effectively since it’s just a better air pump (with correspondingly more fuel consumption). Just speaking to power band and accessible power it will be much better and particularly for those of us living at altitude. The current naturally aspirated motors had relatively peaky and un-trucklike power bands, despite their reliability.

 

It will be interesting to see what real world fuel mileage the new 4Runners get, Tacomas too. The new Sequoia and Tundras aren’t putting out the claimed epa mpgs. Will these have the same fate?

 

probably not much better than the 5th gen. here are our stats on our 2018 tundra plat 4x4 5.5ft (249 fillups) vs our 2023 tundra plat 4x4 5.5ft non hv (40 fillups)

mindful that she does remote starts during winters and most of the time its just around town 90% vs 10% highway

 

It looks like the Tundras are averaging 17-18 combined, which is 1-2 mpg below the estimate. I don't know if the estimates have been released for the 4Runner yet, but I'm guessing it will be a similar story.

 

You averaged only 11 and 12 mpg.
Only 1 mpg gain from going from a super reliable engine to a questionable turbo model doesn’t seem worth it to me.

 

On average, the new Tundras are getting about 20% better than the previous generation. Whether or not that's worth it will definitely depend on driving style. I think people who do a lot of driving will probably benefit the most. But, people who don't drive much might not find it worthwhile.

Hopefully reliability ends up being good overall, but it will be tough to hold up to the previous engine's bulletproof reputation.

 

hmmm dont see any issues with our 23. but then again, we only have 6k of mileage and do the 5k maint intervals on it. had a few quirks the first winter, but none have returned and the engine has been great. plus i never use the SS system or radar cruise.

edit : forgot to add, its not about mpg for use, its the creature comforts for the wife since its her daily driver

 

Everyone will be different especially if you spool the turbo all the time

 

wanted to expand on the comforts.

1. heated steering wheel (wife says its a god send compared to the 2018)
2. wireless aa/cp
3. heated seats get way hotter than the 2018
4. interior warms up faster and defrost works better than the 2018
5. stereo way better than the 2018 (but then again the 2018 jbl was the worst jbl in any model toyota ever had)
6. rides better than the 2018 (she says it does, we have avs
7. hud (she loves it, meh for me since i wear polarized glasses)
8. digital rear view mirror (we both like this)
9. 360 view during parking (i use this more than her)
10. auto boards (she didnt like them at first, but she loves them now and complains about my sorely lacking running boards on my 4R)
11. quieter than our 2018 (after i turned off the fake v8)
12. seats are better than the 2018 (more comfort on trips she says)
13. less fatigue on trips to see the grandson (her quote)
14. less stops on trip to see grandson 1 way (1 less tank fill, she has a pet peeve where she can let the tank get below 1/2 during summer or winter)

 

Everyone or just a couple people that drive like grandpas? Look at the fuelly results.

 

lol yeah dont go by my stats. mine are on the left side of the bell curve and dont represent the norm or near the average.

but we are ok with it. it was never meant to be a mpg purchase.

the fuelly avg for a 2023 is 16.9 vs the 2024 at 17

if you filter out just the non hv 2023 the avg is 17.2 per fill up or 18 mpg across mostly 11 tundra non hv

 

I haven't seen the stats on the new sequoia or tundra but was surprised by how much I beat EPA estimates when I had stock 4runner. After the mods, I'm closer to estimates or worse.

That is, if you trust the computer (although manual calculations were within 0.5 MPG). the 2019 4runner was 19 highway? I used to get between 20-22 stock at 75-80.

With the mods it slowly downticked to about 16.5-17 regardless of city or highway

 

I don’t trust the computer much. Ours is typically over optimistic. We generally get 17-19mpg when calculated manually. Most of the time it’s closer to 17 unfortunately.

 

In all honesty, I didn't ponder the thought of getting a 6th gen before purchasing a 2024 a month or so ago. I'm thinking I made the right choice. Sadly, I've all ready antiqued it a bit. Touch up sticks and chew spit rubs it all out.

 

Why do people keep justifying why they don't want the 6th gen. Cool...more for the rest if us

 

It's just human nature (for some). They're trying to reassure themselves about their decision even though deep down they're a little butthurt over it.

 

The 8 speed transmission alone is enough for me to want one

 

Why? The current 5th gen transmission is pretty flawless. It’s not like a third gen Tacoma. Buying a new vehicle just because the transmission has more gears doesn’t make a ton of sense.

 

A 5 speed seems so outdated these days. It's a solid transmission, but more gears usually helps keep it in the powerband when it up-shifts.

I wouldn't buy a vehicle just for the transmission. But, a transmission with better gearing attached to a more powerful motor could be a strong selling point.

 

You're wasting time trying to change turds mind ....he was just as bad on Tacoma world

 

These days I’m more concerned about reliability than anything else. I’ve gotten over going fast or looking cool. If the 8 speed is just as reliable and gives better mpgs than I’m all for it.

 

Let it go man. How many times are you going to bring up another website here?

 

I don't blame you there. Hopefully it ends up being solid. I'm just speaking from a performance perspective.

 

Well, as a farmer I've always preached "opportunity cost" to my family and friends. We always chew the fat about tillage practices and input costs but at the end of day, it really comes down to how satisfied you are in life. The most dissatisfied folks I know preach about how their decisions are somewhat superior to those that have taken a different path. Time loves a hero gents, if he's real he's a legend. If he's not, he was sent here from hell. Little Feat