2025 6th gen 4Runner Official Reveal Thread

that will be an outlier. your average will be closer to window sticker or +/- 1-2 mpg once people start putting fuelly stats in.

 

for those that want to speculate, how much these specs will carry over to the 4R ?

how much the mpg will be like the 4R is what i am mostly wondering.

 

I’m assuming the 4Runner will also get that tiny fuel tank. That’s disappointing. I would like to know what the real world fuel economy will be driving 80 mph with a family of four and gear inside.

 

i would say add 5 mpg to what you get on average now to figure out what you will get in the new 4R. (5th gen is 17 city , 21 highway) / (6th gen is prob close to LC 22 city / 25 highway)

right now my lifetime avg is 16.67 over 363 fill ups.


but this is not always the case. our tundra is an odd case.

2018 tundra 4x4 plat life time avg was like 11.69 over 249 fill ups

2023 tundra 4x4 plat life time avg so far is 12.50 over 40 fill ups

 

I think the 4R will do better with MPGs because I assume it will be lighter than the LC and it's a little less boxy than the LC. The windshield is more sloped back than the current 5th gen.

 

My '23 average is probably in the mid 17s. I tend to get 16-18 commuting to work on backroads, and closer to 19 on highway road trips.

Assuming the new one averages more like 23-24.... I drive about 10k a year. So I would save maybe 150 gallons of gas a year. ~ $500/year savings. Good for the environment but probably a negative ROI financially if one where to trade up just for that.

 

but at highway its a taller brick than the 4R. 5in in height difference will really hurt mpg. and that front glass is pretty upright compared to the 4R

right now the only thing i see going for the LC is better luxury than the 4R considering all things equal if i compare the limited/platinum vs the LC250 LC version.

and right now i am looking at roughly 68k for a decent optioned LC250 LC version compared to maybe 58k for a limited and maybe 60k for a platinum for minor luxury improvements for my needs (ymmv)

 

I doubt it will be that much better. 4th gen Tacoma owners aren’t seeing that great of mpgs at highway speeds. Then if you add more aggressive tires, gear and people you won’t see much gain at all. My bet is only 1-2 better mpg than a similarly driven and fitted out 5th gen. That equals terrible range on a tank of fuel.

 

Yea the 4th gen Tacoma isn't really proving to be much better fuel economy wise. And the hybrids won't change that much either since they're tuned to be more about performance than efficiency.

On top of that the engineers managed to give the new Tacoma an even smaller fuel tank than the 3rd gen ‍

 

These small fuel tanks are idiotic. Especially since the vehicles are being marketed for adventure and overlanding.

 

Filled up last night at 5.60/gallon for the cheapest. Most expensive was 6.30.

Not even summer yet.

 

Let me guess... California?

 

Bingo. And doubly worse, coastal California. And triply worse, a bit more remote and less inhabited part of Coastal California. Lol

Usually a bit cheaper inland.

 

Geesh. I was pissed when gas jumped up to $3.20 here in the last couple weeks. How can you guys pay almost double for the same product? It’s craziness.

 

cause everyone is leaving cali, the rest that are staying have to make up for the profits

kinda like the old Minot AFB unofficial motto, "only the best come north, only the stupid stay"

and yes i stayed

 

It went from 3.49 to 4.49 over a month here. So fucking stupid

 

Agreed. I also expect the actual fuel economy to be lower at first and improve over the first few thousand miles like it seems to on new vehicles.

Maybe it will get the tank from the Landcruiser. Or, did that get a little baby tank also?

I'm sure it will vary by driving style. I'll be interested to see how they do at 60-65 MPH, as that's usually what I cruise at when I take back-roads.

 

Thanks!

Wow, that's really going to suck if the real world fuel economy doesn't live up to the EPA estimates!

 

The Tacoma and Landcruiser both have the 17.9 gallon tank. I’m assuming the 4Runner will have the same one since they share so many parts. I don’t think it’s actual specs have been released yet.

 

Yeah. We’ll end up with the fuel light coming on at only 300 miles.

 

I wonder what the usable range is really going to be?

Maybe there's some new government regulations to reduce the range on ICE vehicles so that EV's have a better chance of competing.

 

Tacoma has an 18.2 gal tank, down from 21.1 in previous gen.

 

Let’s just call them both 18 gallons. The current 4Runner is 23 gallons. If that also ends up with the 18 is a huge drop in range. I really hope they don’t do it.

 

Then the 6th gen would have kept the 4.0 engine with a turbo slapped on it........woo-hoo

 

Makes sense if the battery pack creates a higher floor back there and headroom would be nill

 

This was stated several times in the debut videos I watched. Hybrid has the raised floor so no 3rd row

 

This has been beaten to death by now, but that's dumb.

How long did Toyota have to design the new 4Runner? Like 30 years? Lol

 

Huh , your response has nothing to do with what I said . I never said diesels were bad I said with all the emissions crap built in it's not worth it to own one . I also said if one of those components go it's going to cost you a fortune if it's out of warranty. I'm using diesel to compare to the replacement cost of a hybrid battery people are complaining about.

 

I read the Landcruiser is 300-400 lbs heavier in addition to its much boxier shape and height. So this should definitely result in a quicker car with better mileage for the 4Runner. I switched my deposit to a 6th Gen 4Runner from a Landcruiser when I realized its far worse ground clearance (vs TH or TRD Pro trims especially), worse approach and departure, more weight, less buttons (vs touchscreen). I like the more classically boxy look of the LC if I’m being honest, but it seems like all other actual off-roading and performance related figures tip the hat to the 4Runner.