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6th gen Speculation Thread

Discussion in '6th Gen 4Runners (2025+)' started by nimby, Jun 14, 2021.

  1. Jun 8, 2023 at 10:07 PM
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    "Ford told us around 25-30% of customers opted for the two-door Bronco, while around 70-75% picked the more practical four-door."

    I agree 2-door would not make sense for US market.

    New Tacomas all 4-door except one model.

    New Tundra line all 4 door, except the lowest model which has the half doors for the back.
     
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  2. Jun 9, 2023 at 4:54 AM
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    Daddy like! Momma too. We will give it 2 model years to fix any bugs, and pick one up for the wife. Unless the new Land Cruiser or 4Runner sways our decision.
     
  3. Jun 9, 2023 at 5:20 AM
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    lexus has not released pricing on the new GX.
     
  4. Jun 9, 2023 at 5:27 AM
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    The outgoing 4R doesn’t share anything with the outgoing GX, and now they’re going to be kissing cousins so I’m gonna stay optimistic :D
     
  5. Jun 9, 2023 at 5:32 AM
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    Yeah I agree with this. 4Runner engine-wise will sit between GX and tacoma. If they ever want to bring prado to US market, having same powertrain in a 4Runner does not make sense. And then it is harder to distinguish between the two anyway, even if prado does not come to US market.
     
  6. Jun 9, 2023 at 6:17 AM
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    The outgoing 4Runner and outgoing Lexus GX share the Land Cruiser J150 platform. Same frame, axle housing, rotors etc. You can cross check the part numbers. The Land Cruiser Prado is identical to the 4Runner except the sheetmetal and glass - it's the same person just wearing different clothing. The GX has the V8 so obviously that's different and the transmission.
     
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  7. Jun 9, 2023 at 6:18 AM
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    According to news reports the GX will continue to be built at the Tahara plant.
     
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    Ah I could’ve sworn the current GX and 4R were different architecture but might have my internet articles mixed up
     
  9. Jun 9, 2023 at 7:19 AM
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    Every article I read said expect pricing to start around 60k.
    Existing 2023 model starts at ~59k.

    Base pricing is not going to change.
     
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  10. Jun 9, 2023 at 9:42 PM
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    They are built on the same platform. The GX is basically a V8 4runner.
     
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  11. Jun 9, 2023 at 9:44 PM
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    Huh? Are you trying to suggest that it looks like a Suburban?
     
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  12. Jun 10, 2023 at 11:06 AM
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    Digging the new GX :thumbsup:Torn between the GX550 or 4th gen Tacoma TRD Pro... 1st world problems :mudding:
     
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  13. Jun 10, 2023 at 1:34 PM
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    I’d do the Tacoma if I wasn’t 6’6”
     
  14. Jun 11, 2023 at 12:27 AM
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    A video on YouTube has a 6'8" guy sitting in the 4th gen tacoma with no issue. I want to say it was the TFL video.
     
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    I was set straight shortly after posting that. Still not sure how the hell I got it in my head that they were different :drevil:
     
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  16. Jun 11, 2023 at 6:56 AM
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    The problem of being tall(for me atleast) is that yeah I do fit in a tacoma, but my seats so far back the back seat becomes useless and no one can sit back there(its reason I got rid of my 3rd gen taco for a 5th gen 4r)
     
  17. Jun 11, 2023 at 9:05 AM
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    True but to be honest the rear seats have always been useless except for kids on the double cab. That's why Toyota builds 4runner, Highlander, Tundra, Sienna, and Sequoia to fit more people in it. Midsize trucks rarely have a lot of space for rear passengers but hey they look good at the mall!
     
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    Even with a 6' person in the front seat, only kids can fit back there.
     
  19. Jun 11, 2023 at 4:02 PM
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    Yes, I have to put seat all way back but that’s pretty much any car I drive.mmy issue was more the how my seat position was, my legs would go straight out in front of me to pedals and felt like I was sitting in a Kayak

    the T4R seat seems taller and like I’m sitting in more of a normal chair.

    I did test drive a Chevy Colorado last year and it was nice but seat felt similar to the Taco
     
  20. Jun 13, 2023 at 9:21 AM
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    So, with the Toyota Land Cruiser teaser today, I'm starting to think they'll separate the 4Runner into the overgrown station wagon that it is, and LC will be the offroad choice. Speculation is the next LC will use the GX chassis, and I could see that taking the TRD Off-Road and Pro variants (and whatever new Trailhunter-y versions) from the 4Runner and badging them Land Cruisers. Price can go up a few thousand $ for the LC name plate. I feel as though they're trying to decide if they want both a 4R and a Land Cruiser, both valuable brand assets, or keep one and ditch the other.
     
  21. Jun 13, 2023 at 9:32 AM
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    Hmmmmm. Weren’t the LC’s like in the $80K range? Tuff pill to swallow if the price is same or more
     
  22. Jun 13, 2023 at 9:33 AM
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    what! where is the teaser? LC in US?
     
  23. Jun 13, 2023 at 9:37 AM
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    toyota insta and fb pages.
     
  24. Jun 13, 2023 at 9:55 AM
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    " Did you really think we’d be gone for long? The legend returns. "

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    !@#$%^&*
    I bought a 4Runner 3 months ago!
     
  26. Jun 13, 2023 at 10:00 AM
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    They must be alluding to the J300 series because the current J150 series of Land Cruisers are already here in North America in the form of the 4Runner (identical to the Land Cruiser Prado save the body panels and glass) and the Lexus GX (identical to the Prado save the engine and transmission).

    But that's up to 2023.

    For 2024, why bring the Land Cruiser Prado when the 4Runner and Lexus GX will already have that segment covered? So they must be bringing back the J300 series unless Toyota wants to flood the North American market with multiple variants of the 4Runner/Lexus GX/Land Cruiser Prado -- which makes no sense to me.

    Thoughts?
     
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    Gee, that was kinda the point of my post:

    "So, with the Toyota Land Cruiser teaser today, I'm starting to think they'll separate the 4Runner into the overgrown station wagon that it is, and LC will be the offroad choice. Speculation is the next LC will use the GX chassis, and I could see that taking the TRD Off-Road and Pro variants (and whatever new Trailhunter-y versions) from the 4Runner and badging them Land Cruisers. Price can go up a few thousand $ for the LC name plate. I feel as though they're trying to decide if they want both a 4R and a Land Cruiser, both valuable brand assets, or keep one and ditch the other."
    My guess it won't be the 300-series, it'll be like the current Prado, and it'll take over the top-spec variants of the 4Runner.
     
  28. Jun 13, 2023 at 10:11 AM
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    Im sure your 4Runner will be just as capable or more, more reliable, lower maintenance costs and better built all for thousands less than a new Land Cruiser and this will most likely keep your 4Runner resale value very good
     
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    Yes, Toyota is bringing back the Land Cruiser to the US in the form of a Prado variant, as it makes sense to their business case. It will revealed this fall, no, it will not be the 300 or international Prado. It will be similar to the new generation international Prado but it will have a unique front end for the US and Canada with retro styling from the 70 series and a possible touch of 40 series thrown in. And yes, there will also be a new 6th Gen 4Runner as well, no worries there.

    Here is my running summary, a big thanks to @Carmaker1 for sharing much of the background information.
     
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    I'm glad I bought when I did. I didn't have time to wait for a new vehicle, and the LC might have lured me into extra expense.
     
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