First 6th gen BUILD: 35's & Level Lift Kit on TRD Off-Road (Everest)

35's will void the powertrain warranty?

 

If it’s getting 15mpg mixed like he said, that’s impressive (I get around the same on 33s). But if it’s on full boost all the time, that cant be good. Piston aviation power plants spend a lot time at full power, but once they’re turbocharged, they often arent designed to go full boost all the time.

35s are gonna need a regear for sure.

 

Absolutely! Bigger tires changes the final gearing ratio which make the transmission work harder. It’s noticeable with 33s on a 5th gen, the make the transmission run hotter, it takes more power to go the same speed, and taxes the power steering in off-road situations. The bigger you go, the more likely you’ll break CV axles as well. 35s will make it so you can snap axles on command once you learn the trick. And the new tacomas/4runners don’t seem to have significantly stronger drivetrain components, so 35s will probably stress it just the same as current 5th gens.

 

Sharp

 

37s don't void Jeep warranty. It would suck if Toyota puts the blame on 35s if things go south. I guess regear to 4.88 and hope for the best. And of course 35s will kill your suspension and steering warranty.

 

*as a butter knife

 

Or you could be reasonable and just put 33's on it.

 

Where's the fun in living reasonably?!

 

depends, i have these for butter knives

 

LLOD is running 37s on his 24 Tacoma and has been for a while.

 

I took mine in for the needle bearing noise on the front diff. They heard the noise, blamed my “off-road” tires, and charged me 140 bucks diagnostic time.

I have 285-70-17 K02. They didn’t blame the size, they blamed it on them being “off-road” tires. They didn’t even blame my lift lol.

They were incorrect in their diagnosis, but there are multiple ways for toyota to “deny”’coverage for any alteration from bone stock. That’s just how toyota is. Will some dealers play fair? Sure. Will most of them? Probably not.

It’s up to the customer and their willingness to challenge denied warranty claims. But when it comes right down to it, larger tires can be the actual cause of drivetrain and steering problems, so it will be a hard fight to fight if toyota decided to deny warranty based on tire size.

 

Can’t help but notice nobody ever does this to the 5/6 gens!
yo @Yotaholic what you think this dudes running under there

 

Looks good!!! These new body style is sharp

 

Even if power will be there, I am skeptical as to whether reliability and longevity will be there.

 

Define driveway components?

 

It's math - 15lbs of boost effectively doubles the engine's displacement. I can't speak to the Toyota yet, but I've had two 3.5TT Ecoboosts and they don't spend much time in boost, even when hauling. The 1st gen were more fuel hungry, which is where the sizeable hit stereotype comes from. The good thing about modern engine controls, is that turbo engines run MUCH closer to stoich than they did in the past. Gone are the days of 10:1 fuel ratios under boost.

The battery won't "deplete", it acts like a capacitor and the logic won't let it go to zero.

 

Deplete all the way to zero wasn’t what I was wondering…it was whether or not the car will draw from the battery more than it can charge the battery.

For example, since the hybrid was primarily designed to give extra power (not effeciency), it may be set up to give electric power in any circumstance where power is requested. If additional electric power is constantly demanded on 35” tires (for example), it will never have an opportunity to replenish the battery.

Sure, the logic will probably dial back the electric power to preserve a minimal state of charge, but then it’s not giving electric boost. If that occurs, the hybrid system essentially becomes completely useless.

 

I ve wondered this as well. My wife’s Elantra hybrid has plenty of “power” from her tiny engine going uphill only when the hybrid system has enough juice from the battery to supplement the engine. If going uphill for too long and the battery is depleted, it is seriously underpowered.
Going from phoenix to flagstaff, towards the end, there is a steep grade and its high elevation. Her car struggles to stay at 65 mph when the battery has depleted although it had no problem doing 90mph when there was still juice in the battery.
Doing the same route with the 4R, I can still easily go 80-85mph on that stretch.

Granted, the 6th gen will have turbos to help but I wonder how much weaker it is without the battery helping out. Ideally I would like having a button that forces the car to use gas only, that way I could preserve the battery when I need it the most if I know the route

 

Guys, the iForce Max Tacoma has been out for a while, go check those out if you're curious how things will work out in the 4Runner. The LC250 and, to a lesser extent, the Tundra/Sequoia also can be used for data points.

 

The turbo engine by itself is more powerful than the 5th gen. Which is why I think if you’re going to 35+ tires, it may not be worth going to hybrid (if the battery becomes depleted quickly).

I haven’t run into anybody sharing observations regarding hybrid electric battery state-of-charge when running on 35 plus tires yet. For example, after being on the interstate a few hours, or out on the trails all day. Besides significantly reduced economy, which is expected. If people on upsized tired are finding that the electric power only last a short while, the hybrid option may not be worth it for those folks. Or for people carrying a lot of extra weight.

 

Meant to say drivetrain. Any part that is responsible for getting power from the engine all the way to the wheels.

 

Yes i was only comparing the Elantra hybrid vs the 5th gen even though they’re very different. But from my personal experience, the Elantra w/ the battery performs better going uphill despite having a much smaller engine. Once it’s running on the engine only (without the battery) it’s much weaker than my 4R.

So I wonder how 6th gen hybrid compares to 6th gen non hybrid since they have the exact same engine.

How much power does the hybrid actually provides in real life scenarios, mainly when adding bigger tires like you said.

are the hybrid 6th gen out already or not yet?