2025 6th gen 4Runner Official Reveal Thread

so many words to say nothing useful about something you don't even have, your hobby? LOL.

 

What are you driving now?

 

Bro is gonna have a reality check when he finds out on an 6th gen if he wants things like power driver seat he has to pony up for at least a TRD Sport Premium starting at 54k if one considers the non-negotiable delivery charge. https://www.toyota.com/configurator...bap_guid=0947738c-269e-4bc7-9700-4fedb037906c

 

. Stop being poor.

 

Oh SR5 bro is all mad and flusterred now (since you quoted me twice) and calling people who paid cash for ORPs poor. LOL. Like sent just for the entertainment value.

 

Save up for the modernized, more powerful, better equipped version and stop complaining about silly things like destination charges. You must not even realize that upgrading to the Sport Premium gets you a lot more than just power driver seat. You're not good at this stuff. Embarrassing yourself. Go away now .

 

Oh "sport premium", how baller. LMAO.

Enjoy daydreaming balling in you >60k 8.1 second(based on the super modern and power hybrid LC250 tests) 0-60 "modern powerful" SUV(that's slower than a 24) while you drive around in your 9 year old SR5 ranting about ORP owners this and that. LOL.

 

no one is trying to change your mind bud, I personally know an engineer at Toyota that works on the Tacoma project directly under Sheldon brown (chief engineer of Tacoma project) in Plano. After talking to him and I’m on tacomaworld where there’s a plethora of known design flaws with the Tacoma which is the exact same car as the 4Runner, I will be staying away. Yea it’s a 4cylinder turbo and expensive blah blah but those aren’t the reasons keeping me away. I don’t wish bad on anyone especially someone who is going to spend over 60k on a vehicle and I truly wish them the best of luck, I know my 5th gen isn’t perfect it has design flaws but god help those who buy the 6th gen

 

The thing is Toyota engineers have by now figured out that 99.5% of its buyers don't use the over built 5th gen and older gens for more than Prius usage. There are a lot of corners that can be cut engineering wise and nearly all buyers won't notice a difference, so why not jack up the prices and give them some trinkets to distract them from driving, just look at this thread, plenty of people are dying to get their hands on the 6th gen no matter what.

Just look at Honda Passports and Nissan Pathfinders, after they switched to unibody minivan chassis and drivetrain the sales are higher than ever did when they were more rugged BOF construction. If Toyota switches to unibody for a future generation of 4Runners, there will be no shortage of people marveling at the "modern, powerful, features, comfort" of it all.

 

Thats unreal starting price of $57k with a cloth interior and all the plastic. I mean don't get me wrong I like basic but comparing that to the 5th Gen SR5's started in low $40s for 2024 I am not really sure what you're gaining here other than a Land Cruiser name and more eco-friendly engine. Personally I like the $17k green more so in my pocket.

 

the LC250 is there to show the performance upper limit of the 4runner Pro/Trailhunter/Hybrids since it has the same turbo motor with the same hybrid helping with the electric assist, pushing roughly the same weight about about 5450 lbs. But since you mentioned it, if you think that LC interior looks unreal level awesome, you will LOVE the base "40k" 2wd 4R SR5's interior when they get here. LOL

Oh and never mind the manual seats in the 50k OR, in the SR5 don't forget to include cost of a spare tire and skip plate type covers since the SR5s won't include those. If Tacos are any indication, the cheapest fleet spec ones around my area are about 36k MSRP, 4k higher than Toyota's official 31.5k starting price. If that's any predictor of how they are producing units. it will be hard to find 6th gen 4wd 4Rs under 50k at least the first year or so.

 

Yeah ironically saw a video of the base 4R with no power seat for 2025. I guess this is what they push now when everyone was willing to pay way over MSRP for certain 4Rs the last few years. They found what the market will bear.

 

The regular OR has no power seat either


at 6:10. cloth manual seats in a 49k vehicle and the interior is worse than a nissan rogue

I don't mind them removing features if cost goes down. Alas.

 

I see your point there also. Sadly though while they take away power drivers seat you will now pay $450 for roof rack cross bars at the port should you want them whereas they cost $180 in 2024.

I cannot imagine the new roof rack cross bars have any new tech, iforce anything, or any rare precious metals to warrant that large of a one year increase.

I am not a fan personally of the Weather Tec wheel well trim also on the new model. A few years of sun will fade those Weather Tec Wheel Wells right out.

 

Yeah. I agree. But evidently Toyota is a different mindset. I expect more than what we have now for these prices.

 

no wonder my trade in value keeps creeping up

 

Toyota needs to pay for those 100,000 tundra engines somehow.

 

Name one.

 

How about a few?
Shock top hat failure due to no bump stops
Transmission failing
The rear brake lines are routed inside of the wheels so if the wheel gets packed with mud or snow it rips the brake line off.

 

None of those have failed on my 2024 Tacoma Off-road Premium truck.

The transmission issue was a supplier issue, not a design defect. It was a QA issue on their part.

We don’t get snow here, so it’s a non issue. So far this winter I am not seeing a shit ton of reports on failures.

Besides, you aren’t Pavo. I wanted to hear his inside info, not bullshit from you.

What happened to your account on Tacomaworld? You get the boot or just banned from the 4th gen forum for being so negative all the time?

Oh, I forgot. You are on my ignore list there. Thank god.

 

transmission already has a tsb and people are needing a complete replacement, no bumpstop, rear brake line is designed where it will rub against the rotor not to mention the problems you’ll get with the turbo

 

wrong transmission is a design flaw the twin turbo v6 blowing up wasn’t due to machining debris they did r&d in Michigan and didn’t make the tolerances tight enough (source my Toyota engineer buddy who helped design the Tacoma) don’t believe every lie Toyota tells you

 

There is no twin turbo in the Tacoma or the 4Runner.

Sorry, I don’t believe the transmission is a global design flaw. There would be a lot of Tacomas reporting issues, and they simply aren’t.

You two are the ones spreading lies. You might want to stop.

 

They're referring to the Tundra 3.4TT - however if the problem is resolved after the engine replacement and in subsequent years, I will be inclined to believe Toyota is being forthright especially with the proactive replacement/recall. Same grace I'm giving Honda too for their 3.5 crankshaft recall since the numbers are so statistically low. People talk of about how those two are all ruined now because X or Y but these are rookie numbers.

I have in contrast, memory of Hyundai/Kia's response who put out a similar excuse - but needed to be sued first before replacing engines en masse and the problems never truly went away in the decade they used their Theta II in both N/A and turbo forms.

Anyways, I think talk of "reliability" has gone in circles here and nothing to do now but wait.

 

I know that. But it has zero to do with the 4Runner or the Tacoma. Both of them are just trolling and attempting to spread fear into potential 4Runner buyers. It’s really uncool.

 

The 2.4T and the 8 speed transmission have only been in truck usage for less than one model year and many of them are still sitting on dealer lots since a lot of 2024 calendar year sales are the 2023 models.

The transmission is a known issue so you can't really accuse them of spreading lies.

 

Not for 120,000 Tacomas, and for zero 4Runners. So yes I can. They are trolling and you know it.

 

How is it bullshit if those are all well documented issues?

 

I say to hell with the 6th Gen 4Runner. We need to band together and go buy Honda Ridgelines!

 

You think 120,000 4th gen Tacos are in consumer hands being driven as we speak?

If you believe that then you don't under stand how car sales work. Up until July or August or so there were still 2023 models in my area so I know a large portion of the 2024 calendar year consists of 3rd gen sales.