Which 2020 4 runner is best for a build platform?

Assuming you will actually use it offroad and will flex/stuff/droop to the limit and not just put in a stiff hockey puck lift for looks, yes. You will need the body mount chop and even more clearancing in the wheel well is needed. You'll also want to re-gear.

Going with larger tires is exponentially more involving on these IFS Toyotas than it is on the Wrangler. Sorry it sucks.

 

So true! This is one real advantage of the Wrangler.

 

Let the Mad Modders get after it! Meanwhile I'm trying to sit on Credit Card

 

I believe so. TRD trims I believe have them blacked out where as SR5, limiteds, and nightshades are painted to match. SOmeone correct me if im wrong.

 

Thats where I run into the problem.

 

Something I didn't see mentioned is that if you go with a KDSS equipped Off Road and extended travel coilovers, KDSS will become your limiting factor. In this scenario, you'll have to modify the KDSS as well with some spacers.

Also, 3 1/2" of lift is pretty big for a 4Runner. You'll need to address CV angles with that much lift. You can still fit 35's (with trimming of course) in the 2.5" to 3" lift range.

 

If I was lifting and expected ongoing suspension maintenance/mods due to actual off-roading over the years of ownership, I’d skip the KDSS. One less variable to worry about. The runner is plenty capable without the kdss.

 

This is true. At stock height, or close to stock height, you benefit from better articulation. With significant lift or extended travel, ANY sway bar becomes a limiting factor. This it probably why many people eliminate the sway bars altogether.

 

See. Thats why I like the pro, Suspension is capable and simple...Six year plan when the kid (hopefully kids) are older I gut the suspension and go big or go home. Till then the Fox stuff will work great, with a warranty.

 

Are you going to eliminate your sway bars?

Keep in mind that KDSS actually improves off road capability until you add a big lift.

If you're planning on going big, then non-KDSS makes the most sense. But, at that rate, you could have bought an off-road and saved money in the long run.

 

Lightly built and extremely capable: TRDOR + KDSS
Heavily built/customized/long travel: SR5
Influencer: Pro

 

Others may be able to answer with more specifics, but 3.5" lift isn't common, and anything 3" or more requires UCAs.
BMC is required for tire fit, not lift. To fit 35s you'll be doing a lot more than simple BMC, and I'm not certain all size increases will give you linear returns.

 

You might want to try KDSS before deciding against it. There’s a couple of you tube videos about it, also. Most guys going for big lifts and 35” tires are doing it for aesthetics, and it does look cool, for sure. But KDSS brings some on pavement performance advantages that are pretty good too. Life is about choices.

 

I feel like me and you have already covered this. mine is better and thats fact. Remember we agreed.

 

I had Fox 2.5 with remote res. and Camburg UCA's on my FJ Crusier, and it was fantastic. Did Moab many times, and high speed
off road was plush. AND it was much better on the highway. That is why I like IFS, the better you make it for off road, it also gets
better on road. Not so with solid axle.

 

You can, or at least could before 2020, so not sure about those, get an Off Road without KDSS, if you're so minded.

 

Do they offer quick disconnect sway bar links?

 

Not sure about quick disconnects for a T4R sway bar...I've only heard of spacers offered for KDSS equipped vehicles to allow more lift and keep the benefits of KDSS.

 

I guess I'll be ok with 33's. I had 35's on my FJ cruiser. It gave me a little more clearance under the pumpkin, but it may have limited my articulation a little.

 

I have them on my Jeep and they make a huge difference when disconnected. But it may be different with IFS

 

Right. But, not because it doesn't have KDSS.

It does have better tires and shocks.

The PRO has the same sway bars as the off-road and SR5. KDSS is an upgrade from that. It only becomes a limitation in situations where you'd probably remove the sway bars anyway.

 

So, no sway bar disconnect links available?

 

I haven't looked. The KDSS has a similar effect, but it still limits travel eventually.

I think most hardcore off-road guys just remove them altogether. This is why I would start with a non-KDSS 4runner if I was going really big with lift.

EDIT: A guy on another forum makes them..

 

That's what I need. Quick disconnects, thank you.