What's the hardest trail you've done in your 5th Gen?

Anyone here running so called Black Diamond or Five Star difficulty trails? Any rock crawling?

Anyone run the Rubicon or other difficult and carnage causing trails in their 5th Gen?

If so do you have photos?

What are your mods?

Did you sustain any damage?

Thanks.

 

Any one? Any one? Buller?

Are we all fire roaders?

 

Some of us not even!

I think almost everyone who has a 5th gen is DD'ing them, few people want to do a LT setup on a DD and fewer still would want to smash a DD off boulders and the like. I'll try almost anything but I recognize the limitations of the truck as it is and would steer clear of stuff like the Rubicon, no matter how much I may want to do it.

 

There's a youtube video of someone running Hell's revenge in a stock 5th gen.

I'm not sure why you would need to do long travel to do any off-roading.

I've done pretty much everything I can find in Wisconsin. But, most people seem to think you're not off-roading if you're not out west. So, I have no idea what the difficulty level is.

What are you trying to figure out?

 

I never mentioned long travel. Don't know where you got that from.

To answer your question, I'm just trying to get a better handle on how capable these vehicles really are (or aren't). I saw an episode of Top Gear where they took a Ford Bronco, Geo Tracker and 2nd or 3rd Gen Runner on the Rubicon. The Toyota broke a motor mount (or it was already broken and showed itself on the trail) and they had to park it about 1/3 of the way through. Got me curious to know if a 5th Gen could make it over the Rubicon or other really difficult trails.

 

Check out RSGs 4runner on 40’s. They’ve done just about all the trails.

 

Sorry, not you. See the bold print in the quote above yours.

I think they're as tough as anything else out there. I'm betting the motor mount was a fluke. I think their main limitation is ground clearance and the inability to fit large tires. That's where Jeep has us beat.

Check around on Youtube, though. There are people pushing these pretty hard.

 

That Runner is Epic and appears to be for more capable than pretty much any other rig out there.

 

Doah! Got it.

Yes I agree, Runners are super tuff and capable. I watched what I believe is the same video you mentioned above. Looks like he is on 285's and a small lift of some sort. He is also running the same sliders as I am. Based on that video(s) I am fairly confident that my Runner will make it through Hell's Revenge as I am also on 285s with a small lift.

Although I noticed that his front valance is pretty scratched up.

 

I was pretty sure there was one where it was bone stock.

Was this the video you saw?

https://youtu.be/XOipPV9FCVE

 

No but.....

I have seen that one in the past.

Again, gives me a barometer of what my Runner is capable of assuming driving skills are the same.

I went through this when I build my jeep, just wasn't sure what it was able to do until I saw other jeeps do it. Also, it always helps to see the correct (or in some cases in-correct) line.

 

Yeah sorry, I stated that incorrectly. Referring to making a dedicated trail rig out of a 5th gen, just not a common thing to do. "LT" is wrong.

 

That clip is a decent endorsement of a stock 4Runner. Maybe some dealers could use it as a sales tool.

 

Gotcha.

Yeah, I feel bad enough getting trail rash on a year old vehicle.

 

I'm primarily on forest roads, but sometimes have to drop it into Lo to get somewhere cool. I've traveled Fordyce in my 5th Gen TEP, 3/2" lift, sliders, 33" tires, spare tire mounted on my rear bumper for more clearance, and made it as far as the first river crossing. I know of two guys in 5th gens who pushed further and ended up with all kinds of broken stuff, suspension and body damage. One had to be pulled up the hill by Committee Crossing by some jeepers. Rubicon is said to be easier, but I have only flirted with the first couple miles on both sides. "Gatekeeper" was no problem, if you know the trail. I can usually go on the maintained Jeep trails in my area, such as up by Gold Lake. Pucker factor is high, though, what with this being my first new vehicle. And my paint is toast; desert pinstriping.

 

This one is pretty darn coolhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLYIKwcfwtM

 

A new friend in his 2019 Tacoma and I in my 4Runner did this trail from the other direction last October.
Trail is located outside of Byrd's Off Road park in Arkansas:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NQVbJu00WQ

Rocks, mud, trees, hills, multiple creek crossings, & off camber situations. Used 4low, the rear locker, and Atrac.
Found ourselves stacking rocks at one point.

Edited to add @ 2:40 we took a cut around to avoid that craziness but went through pretty much everything else.

Crappy little video my friend took of me doing one of the many water crossings:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRZadwzYX5Q

 

I don't have any pictures but the most challenging trip I took on my 2020 with about 3,000 miles was the grocery store parking lot in Sun City West, AZ.
Wow! The drivers there are out of this world. They can't see so they don't look. Just careen wildly around looking for the closest spot to the entrance.
It's exciting!
Then when you get in the store they drive the grocery carts the same way.
And now they are wearing masks ....scary!

 

Thank you for sharing that! Some people have no idea how dangerous mall-crawling can really be.

 

Cross Bronx Expressway. Challenging in many ways.

 

My buddy Kimo has run a couple black diamonds with me up in Big Bear. We’ve done White Mtn, Holcomb Creek, Lower Larga...
here we are on Little John Bull. On White Mtn...

 

I've done those in my old TJ. Was thinking about White Mt but was a bit concerned about. the ledge you have to climb about 1/2 through.

 

I'm more about just getting out to some secluded spots and checking things out, not necessarily for the challenge of tackling difficult trails. I'll do blues, but I'm not into crawling.

 

I have a 2020 and I've done double black at coyote flats in calif.

 

I’m sure you can do White Mtn Rich. The only part I won’t attempt is Suicide Hill. Not until I install a front locker! Cal 3-wheel Hill is doable without a locker but line choice is critical. Once you pass East of 3N11 tho, I feel at least one locker is necessary. We should definitely plan a run up there! From our run in May...

 

Well the thing I noticed about your buddy's rig is that front bumper which gives him extra clearance for the front tires. One of the things I liked to do in my TJ was walk one tire up a wall or rock right next to or in front of a ledge I was climbing. Always worked really well for me. I don't believe I could do that with the Runner in it's current form.

Run to BB? Hell dude we never even got together for coffee. LOL. We need to meet up my friend.

 

Doah! I meant Gold Mountain not White Mountain. I believe I have done White Mt before.... from Bear Valley up into BB?

Gold Mt is the one with the large ledge that needs to be climbed.

 

Yes that bumper allows for a much greater approach angle. We were running Lower Larga when he dented both bumpers. His wife jumps out, sees the damage, stares at us for a couple seconds... we thought she was about to lose her shit...then she says, I think we need better bumpers babe, What a keeper!

I’d be down for coffee. Let me know when n where.

 

Ok gotcha! Gold Mtn has a couple obstacles that are tough but its a very short trail, whereas White Mtn is a long, grueling crawl up from Coxey truck trail.

 

Yes that's it. I have done both White and Gold Mt trails in my old TJ.

Love the black steelies on your Runner.