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Was rear ended in a hit and run. Wondering if I may be able to fix it myself. Does this look fixable

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010-2024)' started by MarcRed4R, Nov 26, 2023.

  1. Nov 26, 2023 at 9:55 PM
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    Have you tried smacking the bumper cover to see if it will clip back into place?

    Sometimes just leaning on it will do the trick.

    Also, you should at least get an estimate.
     
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    I have not tried to push or pull on it but that sounds worth trying. I would think that it may be possible that some clips may be broken and I won’t know unless I take the bumper off? Not sure, but yeah I was debating whether to make an insurance claim or not.
     
  4. Nov 26, 2023 at 10:40 PM
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    Any other photos from the rear? That doesn't look so bad, but if there's more damage...

    Plenty of YouTube videos on removing the rear bumper cover. Replacing clips would be a breeze.
     
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  5. Nov 26, 2023 at 10:52 PM
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    51D88CEA-C26A-4FA6-B015-5B4090AC66C0.jpg The valence cover was damaged looks like I will have to replace that, thankfully the tow ball helped in minimizing the hit to the bumper.
     
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    Sorry. I would let a good body shop do what's needed.
     
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    Get an estimate from a reputable body shop and go from there.
     
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    So the red bumper cover might just need a good whack, but your silver valance looks like mine after I caught it on a rock.

    I guarantee that some of the tabs on it have broken, and you’ll need to replace it.

    You can do it yourself, but honestly by the time you’ve paid for the parts, you might just want to pay the 1 hour or so of shop time and be done with it.

    You’re looking at $620-$850 worth of damage roughly speaking, unless the red bumper cover needs to actually be replaced.

    Depending on your deductible and recent claim experience, you might want to eat the cost yourself. If you do, go to an independent place, because they’ll come back with a much lower estimate than the chains.

    What’s more, if the red bumper cover is fine except for some gouges, an independent shop is less likely to make you buy a new cover versus filling and blending.
     
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  9. Nov 27, 2023 at 10:00 AM
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    @bassist Thanks I was able to push the red bumper back in. And yes there was definitely some broken tabs on the valence cover. I believe that the red bumper should still work, so I will be looking for estimates or will decide to do the work myself. Thanks all!
     
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    Looks like it can be fixed to look okay if you are mechanically inclined. But the real question is what's the internal damage? Will this affect the safety for another rear end hit?
     
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    See, he is Fonzie!

    At any rate, the big challenge when it comes to replacing the valance yourself is that you have to remove the entire red bumper cover, which means you have to have the nerve to pry it free with all the associated noise telling you that you are breaking something.

    Now, if you don’t have the rear blind spot monitors and cross traffic alert, I would consider just replacing the whole thing with the Ironman rear bumper. Not much more than the valance, and then you have better departure angles.
     
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    Ring rear ended-regardless if you can fix i yourself, get an estimate and have the insurance company pay you. Today’s bumpers are designed to give but there can be hidden under damage to the crash bar behind the bumper that you can’t see. Also, the bumper cover would normally pop back. The fact that it has remained in the misaligned state that it is, could indicate broke clips and or damage to the bumper absorber. What you choose to do after the insurance pays would be up to you. If the damage is high enough you could also be entitled to diminished value. Good luck. Hope Minnie was hurt.
     
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    Yeah it would be expensive. When I ask a bodyshop near my house to do some painting from trail damage (no broken stuff just scratches) to payed from my pocket, no spending time for the bodyshop with insurance process they said around 1000.
     
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    Perfect time to replace those awful silver valances with black ones. The front valance can be replaced without removing the bumper cover.
     
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    Really? Everything I’ve ever seen indicates you have to remove the bumper cover from the front.
     
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    After looking at 4Runner lifestyle they are selling the front and back (black) valence covers for 200 pre tax and delivery fees, which doesn’t seem that bad. Will try to remove the rear bumper off myself. If there is further damage I will look at a metal bumper such as the Ironman, which most of these require the the bumper to be removed and cut anyway.
     
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    One example:
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    The rear is a different story. That cover has to come off.
     
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    Same thing happened with my Prius and the back bumper - someone bumped me, it pushed the right side out just like that. I was able to tap it with some muscle and it 'popped' back in, but the tabs actually broke and it comes un popped ALL of the time, drives me crazy. Hopefully you got lucky and your tabs are intact.
     
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    Truth be told, 4runner bumpers are just a plastic cover and some hard foam about 1-2 thick, then it’s the frame crossmember. Indon’t think suv bumpers are regulated like cars of yester-year.

    On the 4runner, once the foam squishes, the frame crossmember is what gives. That said, the crossmember is usually harder than most cars that hit it, so it’s them that take the energy.

    But I’d say it’s worth having it checked out. Especially if you don’t know what hit you. If it was something hard and heavy (truck, forklift, a jeep with steel bumper, etc.) you may want to verify there is no frame damage.
     
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    @Technologic80 I hope the tabs are in tact, I don’t think the bumper will pop out how it is currently, but I will be taking the bumper off to change the valence cover so I hope they don’t break while doing that. @McSpazatron it was a Hyundai sedan that hit me. The tow ball (shown in one on my pics) definitely helped and it caved in their hood. The spare tire is also behind the hitch so maybe that helped?? I looked under the car and did not see any frame damage, but I’ll have a better idea once I take off the rear bumper.
     
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    Post some pics when you get the bumper cover off.
     
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    @glwood54 Will do, hope to have the parts and work on it this weekend.
     
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    Fingers crossed that the bumper cover has all the attachment points intact.
     
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    @MarcRed4R
    Sorry to hear this, gotta love the hitches eh.
    I've removed both the rear and front bumper off by myself in the last month (prolly the third time I've done it, for mods).
    Your rear bumper looks to be fine and you said you popped it back on. I believe it's fine cuz it's actually like a whole row of clips, that identify as male and female - and to install the rear you literally rip/pop it off, and then literally smack clip it back into to place.
    Your valance however, has little external clips that break easy and good on you for replacing. But do your fingers a favour and remove that rear bumper before valance for replacement (hate to say it)
     
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    What was the front off for?
     
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    Bought brand new 2016 After May 2021: -Approx 3" lift/level: Bilstein 5100's, OME 2884 590lb 3" front lift springs, SPC UCA's, ICON 158506 2" lift rear coils, diff drop -Mickey Thompson Baja ATZ LT285/70R17 Load E -Mickey Thompson Sidebiter ll 17x9, 0 offset, 5 backspace -Pro Comp black spline lugs ^installed by 4WheelParts^ -New brakes and rotors by brake shop -4-piece ARB skid kit -Smittybilt 2" nerf steps -MBRP black exhaust tip, chopped OEM -Drivers side OEM FJ oh shit handle -All blacked out emblems -Blacked out roof rails -4x WeatherTech window rain guards -OEM custom rear mud flap deletes -KICK BACK MUD FLAPS 12" WIDE - BLACK TOP AND BLACK WEIGHT -FRAM EXTRA GUARD CA10835 engine air filter -1797 LED tricolor fog bulbs Yellow 3000K White 6000K Blue 15000K 28W 4000LM -Armour paint lower rear bumper -Front bumper high stage high clearance cut -Fenders cut straight across, pink reservoir sprayed black -4Runner Lifestyle sequential fog fangs -4Runner Lifestyle smoked taillight decals -Pedal Commander -Rear passenger cargo mounted 120v truck tire pump -4x Spidertrax 1.25" black aluminum wheel spacers -Yota Twins Paracord Hatch Strap sand camo -Teton Workshop hard anodized matte black aluminum shift knob -Ditch flood lights 4 LED 20w 1400lm w/ OEM hood mounts on OEM style dash switch -Backup flood lights under bumper 6 LED 18w 1500lm on OEM style dash switch -Body Mount Chop; cut, weld, paint -Fender mount chop, re-weld, paint -Fender Liner cut behind wheel (I cut liner in front of wheel clean off at top of viper cut) -Wheel well firewall hammering, painting ^done by Arc One Industries^ -valance cap trim -Agency6 Black Shackle Block 2" US Certified 6061 T6 CNC machined aluminum -DRT fab universal hitch skid -ACDelco inner tie rods, outer tie rods, bellows -Full Dr. KDSS switch kit -March 31 Behind grille 13-1/4" 32 LED light bar + wide-angle, eagle-eye lens 6000lm on OEM style dash switch -RAA Powder coated steel roof rack cargo basket, 1" side rails, 64" x 39" x 6", 250lb limit -roof gas can, water can, shovel -PEAKTOW PTT0063 Hitch Mount Cargo Carrier 51-1/2 x 17-1/2 x 4 inches 500 lbs. Capacity (trips only) -July/2023: purchased first needed SPC balljoint replacement kit - newly released, upgraded non-zerk sealed joints 25002 -July 15/2023: The Original Universal EZ Flares, 1". All four corners -Dec. 2023: removed bumper cover and crash bar, drilled frame, installed Apex Overland KDSS Recovery Points -Jan. 2024: SPC balljoint replacement kit - upgraded non-zerk sealed joint design 25002 -Feb. 3/ 2024: 4x KC Wire Hiders, for roof rack lighting Feb. 13/2024: New ditch lights, on new Rago Fabrication Extension brackets. 3inch Quad Row Amber Pods from LED-Club. 32W 3200Lm 16-LED Spot Beam. Replacing 3inch EVERGEAR clear lens ditch light pods w/ yellow lamix-x In progress: 4th, 5th, and 6th set of off road lights Electrical components and wiring purchased, not started -roof rack scene lighting - EVERGEAR ea. 1,350 lumens, 30w, 3-¾" round floods. Custom, side mounted w/ galvanized flat bar And -roof rack upper ditch lights - 3inch Quad Row Amber Pods from LED-Club. 32W 3200Lm 16-LED Spot Beam. Bar clamp mounted to front corners And -roof rack reverse amber pods / secondary hazard lights. 20W 2000Lm 2-LED Spot Beam. Bar clamp mounted to rear side And -roof rack F1 smoked chase light w/ lighting effects. Custom bolted to rear side -POR15 rust proofing line-up, 3-step process PAUSED until 70⁰ weather Bought, in the garage queue: -BlueFire 6-Circuit Fuse Block with LED Indicator & Protection Cover -Blue Sea Systems 100A Circuit Breaker w/ reset lever -Rust prevention •New can POR15, 2x Black Fluid Film, long spray nozzle attachments, 2x PB Surface Shield, 1x Chainwax •partially used POR15 Degreaser, Metal Prep Wanted - PerryParts or Wheelers bump stops, self fabricated limb risers (seasonal, removable), 1" body lift, powder coated center winch bumper w/ large bar (got no tss), rear steel bumper w/ tire carrier for an LT285 Kumho on steely, sliders, bolt on cat shields
    Apex Overland Recovery Points w/ KDSS

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  29. Nov 28, 2023 at 7:16 AM
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    bassist

    bassist New Member

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    You have to remove the front bumper just because of KDSS?
     
  30. Nov 28, 2023 at 2:55 PM
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    Redwood

    Redwood New Member

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    Be careful here. There may more damage than it looks. My "22 ORP has an electronic module mounted underneath in that exact location passenger rear corner. I still haven't been able to find out it's actual function yet if someone knows.
     

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