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TRD Pro fox suspension kit question

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010-2024)' started by Jtorral, Dec 13, 2020.

  1. Dec 13, 2020 at 9:11 PM
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    Jtorral

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    I have been reading about the trd pro fox suspension kit from toyota. I am leani towards that solution for my 2021 ORP to get the pro performance and lift.

    Having said all that, I have seen the kit between 2200.00 and 2500.00. Some say I need new uca, some don't mention it. So, my question is ....

    If I go with the oem suspension kit, do I need the uca's?

    Thanks
     
  2. Dec 13, 2020 at 9:37 PM
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    Its waste of money spending for TRD Pro suspension. Better spend your hard earned money for a proper suspension setup.
    Look at adjustable suspension systems like Kings, Elka. I've heard so many good things about Redflo as well.
    Even the Toytec Aluma series have many good reviews and readily available.
    So much more better options..
     
  3. Dec 13, 2020 at 9:55 PM
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    Just priced the Toytech and its more expensive than the trd pro fox suspension kit.
     
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    You don’t need aftermarket UCA’s for the pro suspension, it only lifts 1” if that I believe. I agree with the previous statement, you’d be better off spending $2500 on a good quality suspension. Nothing against the fox suspension, there is just much better options especially in the $2500 range.
     
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    The Fox suspension on the TRD pro is really good. There is just no real lift with it. One inch, front only. So basically leveled.

    With an aftermarket setup you can get a mild lift in decent quality for the same money without too many components to change. Make sure it’s an actual upgrade though. Too many go with cheap suspension just to get a lift and make the car ride much worse.
     
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    If your adding the Pro fox suspension switch the springs out to the new Eibach springs. You will be lifted to run 285’s and you will get a better handling and ride vehicle.
     
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    Slow down and take time for your research. A high-end setup is not far from your budget. Here's how much I paid for ELKA 2.5 diameter body dual adjustable setup. All I want to say is sped you money wisely than a poor TRD Pro setup.

    upload_2020-12-14_8-11-42.jpg


    Single adjustable Kings are almost same price as my ELKAs.
    upload_2020-12-14_8-17-39.jpg

    Even these Toytec Aluma 2.5 better than TRD Pro Fox.

    upload_2020-12-14_8-14-35.jpg
     
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    you can find the Trd Fox suspension on the market place here or your local ebay craigslist and can get them anywhere from $800. to $1400. there was a guy that just sold a whole set front and back for $700. great deal no need to change UCA either here is Video of a guy that takes a 2020 Trd Pro through Baja and reviews the 4R and the suspension a lot good Info on the video
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6iykIfU6qc
    I have the Trd Fox setup and can say its pretty nice setup and you can add spacers or change the springs to get a little more of a lift if needed
    Suspension It all depends what you'r going to be doing with your rig
     
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    You can say as many things right as you want, repeating this makes you a non-trustworthy source (to phrase it VERY politely).
     
  10. Dec 14, 2020 at 11:57 AM
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    I would assume you do not to upgrade your UCA. To verify, look at the 2021 pro and see if there is any difference between it and the 2021 ORP
     
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    @Jtorral

    If you're willing to pay $2500 for the PRO setup, you could pay a little more and get Fox 2.5's, or 2.5" Kings, Elka, Radflo.. There are a lot of options in that price range.
     
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    correctomundo. no uca. the trd pro suspension gives about an inch lift in the front.
     
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  13. Dec 15, 2020 at 1:39 PM
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    Looking at the fox 2.5 as an option. My concern is that they are set to 2" and I don't know what that will do to my pre collision system along with my KDSS. Also, what do i put in the rear?
     
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    2021 4Runner: King Coilovers King rear shocks Camburg UCA’s Spc rear Trail arms Icon 52700 rear springs Icon panhard bar SCS Ray10’s Rci Sliders Rci Full Skids 2022 Tacoma Offroad: King Coilovers King rear shocks Deaver leaf springs Camburg UCA Scs Gen 5 Bamf front hybrid bumper Rci Full Skids Rci Sliders

    Spc UCA
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    Icon 52700 rear springs for 2” of rear lift. Adjust front to level out.

    this will be roughly 3300-3600 depending where you buy from.

    I definitely recommend calling @showstoppersusa and telling them you budget and what you’re looking to get out of it and they can help you.

    also your kdss will be fine. They make kits specifically for kdss and your pre collision will be fine. I’m about 3”+ in the front and have zero issues.
     
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    You'd be fine with 2" and KDSS. And, you can get 1", 1.5", or 2" rear springs to get the stance you want.

    Or, do like @Antman and go full Kings!
     
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    You can adjust them lower than 2".
     
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    Check out @Oldtoyotaguy and his Elka setup. Looks like a superb set up and just what you’re looking for. The fronts are adjustable. There’s a great thread here talking about the Elka’s. And I think they’re in your price range and much higher quality than the Pro’s.
     
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    Im about 99% sure the TRD pro fox shocks for the 4runner dont give you ANY lift at all. Its the same ride height as the TRD off road. I believe the Tacoma TRD pro is lifted 1" though... which may be the reason for the confusion.
     
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    sorry this not correct ,the 4R Trd Pro Fox due lift the front by 1"
     
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    source? all the data (approach angle, ride height, etc) say otherwise. According to Toyota ground clearance across all models is 9.6" and approach angle is 33* Cant find anything that says TRD pro is higher. I would assume Toyota would advertise this if the TRD pro was in fact lifted!
     
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    You can see a slight lift on the TRD Pro if you zoom compared to my stock SR5 even though the specs on ground clearance, approach, departure angles are same.IMG_0063.jpg
    upload_2020-12-15_22-22-9.jpg
     
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    here you go it gives you one more inch of travel to the wheels on the 2019 Trd Pro with Fox suspension
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52iQYn6DM2k

    here is review of the Pro Fox shocks just so you understand how these shocks work
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSLxa2NWCKY
    Thanks to the Internet :amen:
     
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    Are the TRD Pro front UCA's the same part (number) as the TRD OR front UCA's?

    Are the struts and shocks found in the TRD Pro 4Runner "linear" by design? Looks like they're monotube?

    I have no doubt that the TRD Pro suspension is great, but I also agree that, if I was looking at spending $2500, I'd be looking at other top-of-the line options instead. Or, with care, I can imagine a setup which costs far less and performs just as well as the TRD Pro OE setup.

    All that said, as I search for a mild lift myself, there don't seem to be a lot of options for inexpensive (fixed) lifts that don't raise the front upwards of 3 inches. I guess the manufacturers have found a correlation between light pockets and "stunting."

    I'm trying to avoid an adjustable front for various reasons and it's seeming difficult.
     
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    Great videos! I thought i had watched everything possible on the TRD pro... yet im still finding new info lol!

    I take delivery of my Pro to orrow and cant freaking wait! havent been this excited about a vehicle in a long time
     
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    Congrats post pic up when you do
     
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    Settled on the 2.5 fox factory series. Now I just need to find someone who has them in stock.
     
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    That is so much better news to hear.

    Sadly during this time it takes some wait time for good things. Hope you understand its better to wait for something good rather than spending twice.

    On another note have you decide are you going to go with 2.5 non adjustable ones or 2.5 adjustable ones? What UCA you are going to use? Total Chaos/ SPC, etc.. Start your search on those items as well which will help you when placing your order.

    Its my personal choice I chose adjustable kit so I can adjust according to the terrain.
     
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    Spoke with fox. Going with 2.5 coilover non external res on the front and 2.5 with res on the rear. May leave at 2 inch up front or drop it to 1.5. Not doing uca since the lift is minimal.
     
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    good for you good luck make sure you take measurements before and after just for your own info so you know where you started from. post pix after ward
     
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