Rear brake pads, one option? Need anything else?

Time for rear brake pads. When I search I see talk of two different part numbers, one being a cheaper econo line. Is this is "good" one that I want part 0446660140?

I also read some people about a TRD brake pad? Is that thing? Anyone know the part number? Is this what I want?

And do I need anything else? Anti-squeal kit? Shim kit?

Help! Bless ya thank ya

 

Its your rears for most people I would just go with whatever.

The part number is just the pads. How is the rotors? You gonna get them resurfaced?

Since you going back there I'd also check the pad on the parking brake.

 

Thanks. I was considering just replacing the rotors while in there but I was going to have a friend resurfaced the current ones. I don't think I have ever replaced a parking brake pad. Interesting. Thanks

 

I've heard a lot of people say good things about the TRD pads, but if what you had was good, the standard OEM will be perfect.

Besides what Dillusion said, I have also heard that bedding them properly makes a big difference...so whichever way you go, read up on the proper cleaning and bedding (pretty sure I've seen some threads in this forum discussing it)

 

I can't even find the TRD pads but read about them and was curious. The oem was good but they were toast well under 30k miles.

 

I've never had to replace them either but since its coming apart I'd at least look at them. Usually adjusting them as needed is good enough.

 

Good stuff, thank you. Will do.

 

Verify this, but I think the part number for TRD rear brake pads that will fit the Runner is PTR09-89110

*Edit to mention...if you burned through the factory ones in 30K, you will likely see less with these

 

Go with the OEM pads. If your rotors are well within spec, you shouldn’t need new ones. Corrosion and rust may change that decision on rotors. I don’t think that you need to resurface your rotors, unless you’re concerned about warpage or something in the surface. Bed the pads properly and they’ll be fine.

 

Personally not a fan of resurfacing…if your not getting a pulsation in the brake peddle and no shimmy in your steering wheel, just do pads.. I would replace with oem premium pads… if rotors are warped I would replace, again oem rotors.

 

Thank you! I am going to do some research on those.
Yeah, appreciate the heads up. I am worried about that. Such a short life span on them.

Thank you! I never resurfaced rotors in the past until relatively recently.. 2015 or so. I was told this is the new thing and the "right" way to do things but not sure why. I never cared for doing it cause last time I got a lot of wobble later on.

Only shimmy is the 60mph from the ol' 4Runner lore. No shimmy or wobble on braking. I don't like resurface but get looked at like I'm nuts now. I thought thats what Toyota wants. Thank you for your feedback. I am leaning towards not resurfacing with the feedback here.

 

A pad slap is the bare minimum brake job you can do. Seems like the cheap way to me, especially on a $30k plus vehicle (what year/mileage are we talking?). Sorry, not trying to judge. On-car lathe with thick enough rotors, or, new ones will provide a superior brake job. Your choice. Parking shoes should be fine if you haven't driven with parking brake on.

 

Has nothing to do with the price. Its about doing whats best. If the rotor resurfacing is potentially going to cause me wobbles, I'd rather not. I am asking opinions on parts to do the best work on my vehicle possible.

 

A proper resurface won't cause "wobbles." Do you have a shop you trust or do you want to do the work? OEM pads or Aekebono are a good choice.

 

This will turn out like the oil change threads. Lol.

I never turn rotors on any of my vehicles. If I have an issue with a rotor, it gets replaced. The cost of resurfacing vs new rotor is so minimal, that not getting the new rotor doesn’t make sense. I will always put new OEM rotors on every other brake pad change.

 

It's actually not that subjective if you have a dial indicator, calipers, and a repair manual.

 

Resurfacing removes material, which in turn increases heat retention, which increases chances of warpage

 

Your factory rear pads only lasted 30k miles? Were the fronts also worn as badly?. It seems most vehicles nowadays wear the front and back pretty evenly.

It seems like that was an exceptionally short life (unless you have a ton of weight in the back all of the time). Have you checked if the rear calipers slides move freely?

 

I never resurface either because I don't want to take the damn rotor off. Take it down to a shop, resurface, go back home. I could be done with everything by the time I get it resurfaced.

 

My friend is a tech for Land Rover and he would take care of it for me at LR on their employee garage day.

I think so. The cost is similar. Just trying to do whats best. It seems like so many recommend turning them. I don't know.

Damn it! Thanks. Maybe I should swap them out and not risk it.

Fronts still look good. The rears are toast. I too thought it was super fast. I don't carry a ton. I was thinking its because a ton of city driving, and "aggressive" (for a 4Runner) driving. I haven't pulled the wheel off yet so haven't touched it.

 

Looks like OEM rotors aren't even available on Toyota's part site. Just says currently unavailable. When I click links for local dealers its saying the same thing. A parts shortage?

 

Have done business with this dealer for online parts…would recommend

 

Weird. It would be interesting to see if you see any sticking issues with the slide pins when you get in there and inspect. Let us know what you find!

 

When you run your pads beyond their usable life there are a couple of areas of the pad that will contact the rotor causing grooves that can only be removed with a resurface, providing they aren't too deep. Your ears and a sensation through the pedal when braking should be telling you this has been happening. Even those not mechanically inclined can look and feel whether there are grooves or not on the rotor.

With regular pad changes this should never be an issue. Bottom line, no grooves, don't touch 'em.

 

Awesome. Thank you!

Absolutely. If i find anything worth reporting I will definitely share it.

 

I googled the part number and got this: https://parts.earnhardttoyota.com/o..._lhEYys9W8uMXHBGCcce_wk-i37kaPJ0aAkqWEALw_wcB

And their description: "Whether you're boulder bashing or stuck in traffic, you quickly realize that the left Pedal is just as crucial as the right. The enhanced stopping Power from TRD brake pads help decrease stopping distance while it increases your confidence. Aramid- and ceramic-strengthened compound helps deliver an optimum combination of cold and hot friction with minimal brake noise Reduces fade during repeated stops or extended downhill driving Direct Replacement for stock pads For street and off-road use (not intended for open track sessions) Fits 4Runner, FJ Cruiser, SequoiaPosition: Rear TRD: TRD They offer an excellent price-to-performance ratio in a high-performance street pad. Boost braking performance and reduce fade during repeated stops or extended downhill driving with TRD's high-performance, high-friction brake pads. Made from an aramid-and ceramic-strengthened compound, TRD brake pads deliver an optimum combination of cold and hot friction, with minimal brake noise and enhanced stopping power."

Personally I have no experience (yet).

 

I am in the same boat here. Just had a 36,000 mile service on my 19 SR5 and the inspection report showed the rear brake pads were in the yellow range and would probably need pads and rotors (resurfaced) at the next service at around 41,000. The estimated cost (Toyota Dealership) $411. What do you all think? I have only owed this vehicle for less than a year and and it had 32,000 miles when i picked it up. It had been a lease vehicle but ended up at a Subaru dealer where i bought it. It was extremely clean so I don't think it was abused at all. The front brakes are in the green, no problem. So I too am scratching my head thinking isn't this backwards?

 

I ended replacing rears at around 47k ish. The fronts still had a few thousand miles left on them, but I replaced anyway. I got the toyota replacement pads (not the premium factory pads). They are stamped akenobo.

I didn’t turn the the rotors. They all looked good, so it was a straight pad swap, lubed slide pins on the rear calipers, and cleaned.

So far so good. They were pretty grabby for a few hundred miles, but they settled down and feel normal again. i didnt do a “bedding” procedure on the pads, because I’ve gotten pulsing on the rotors in the past…apparently because I got them too hot.

 

I would never resurface a rotor. It just allows them to warp in the future more easily. If you have the original OEM pads, and you're not unhappy with them, it's probably best just to stick with them Aisin/Toyota pads are still made in Japan. I bought some online through parts.toyota.com and paid a very favorable price compared to a comparable pad at three major chains.

I think the OEM Toyota rotors held up very well for me so far. They are the right hardness that they avoid overheating like the ultra hard rotors and they mate well with the OEM pads. It's a good combination.

Since getting them shipped from out of state might save you some sales tax, some of the best pricing at the parts website is through Mobile, Alabama's dealership and also a dealership near Amarillo, Texas. There's free shipping if you spend $75 or more and it's legit OEM stuff from a dealership, no chance for counterfeit stuff there.

The OEM pads have a really nice shim kit, so you don't need to buy all that stuff if you get OEM replacement pads.

 

Chiming in with a question here. The TRD Pads say they only fit 2012-2014 years.
1. Are there rear TRD pads for 2021? Or are they the same?
2. Is there a separate part # for front TRD pads?

Searched several sites and still empty handed.
Thank you!