1. Welcome to 4Runners.com!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all 4Runner discussion topics
    • Transfer over your build thread from a different forum to this one
    • Communicate privately with other 4Runner owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

New oil filter longer than the one the dealer installed

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010-2024)' started by armchairpilot, Sep 5, 2024.

  1. Sep 5, 2024 at 4:48 PM
    #1
    armchairpilot

    armchairpilot [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2023
    Member:
    #31119
    Messages:
    2
    Gender:
    Male
    Montreal
    Vehicle:
    2019 4Runner TRD Off Road
    Hi, I have a 2019 4Runner Off Road and decided to change the engine oil myself.

    IMG_20240905_194059601.jpg When I removed the old filter element I noticed it was shorter than the new one that I had just purchased. The old one is about 2-1/2" inches long and the new one is 3-1/8". The tube in the center was sticking out of the old one, but I think the new element will cover the entire tube. I've verified that I am supposed to be using the 04152-YZZA5 which is the one I received, but can't understand why the dealer would install the shorter one. I read somewhere that dealers sometimes use a YZZA1 by mistake or because there were none during the pandemic, but I got my oil changed 6 months ago.

    Also, the housing was torqued on so tight I needed a breaker bar to remove it!

    I haven't installed the new filter until I get some feedback.

    Any advice would be much appreciated.
     
  2. Sep 5, 2024 at 4:51 PM
    #2
    laxman09

    laxman09 Gassy Member

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2023
    Member:
    #37129
    Messages:
    423
    Gender:
    Male
    Mahoning Valley, OHIO
    Yeah that's the A1 filter. That's why most do their own changes.
     
  3. Sep 5, 2024 at 4:59 PM
    #3
    armchairpilot

    armchairpilot [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2023
    Member:
    #31119
    Messages:
    2
    Gender:
    Male
    Montreal
    Vehicle:
    2019 4Runner TRD Off Road
    Why would they do this? To save costs or they didn't have the correct filter in stock? I have about 10 000 kms (6500 miles) on that filter. Should I be concerned?
     
  4. Sep 5, 2024 at 5:10 PM
    #4
    Startrek

    Startrek New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2021
    Member:
    #21187
    Messages:
    388
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2012
    install proper filter - A5 and never visit dealership again. they want to screw up your vehicle
     
    LCJ77 and TrailSpecial22 like this.
  5. Sep 5, 2024 at 5:13 PM
    #5
    icebear

    icebear Recovered Kia Owner

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2023
    Member:
    #36091
    Messages:
    1,000
    Vehicle:
    2021 Toyota 4Runner SR5
    When I bought my Sorento from a dealer (used) it came with an undersized oil filter. I plan to change all fluids and maintenance items myself now upon purchase ASAP.
     
    TrailSpecial22 likes this.
  6. Sep 5, 2024 at 5:17 PM
    #6
    MI-FL off roader

    MI-FL off roader T4R Hobby/Addict

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2015
    Member:
    #878
    Messages:
    1,429
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Brett
    Merritt Island, FL
    Vehicle:
    03' SR5 Sport - 12' Limited
    Too many mods and too much money
    SOBs are still doing that crap?
    First time I changed mine it had that short filter in it. That was in 2015. Turned down the free changes after that and I've been doing my own since.
    SMDH
     
    TrailSpecial22 likes this.
  7. Sep 5, 2024 at 5:18 PM
    #7
    TrailSpecial22

    TrailSpecial22 New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2022
    Member:
    #28262
    Messages:
    1,650
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Adam
    PA
    Vehicle:
    2022 Trail Special Edition Lunar Rock
    2” lift Bilstein 6112 w/600 lb coils front, 1.5” lift Eibach T13 coils rear, Bilstein 5100 rear shocks, TRD skidplate, TRD stainless catback w/black TRD side exhaust, TRD shifter handle, Weathertech bug deflector, 20% tint front, LED door bulbs, 285/70/17 Falken WP AT3, Energy Suspension front bumpstops, SSO Slimline Bumper w/ Badland Shackles, Durobumps 4.25” rear
    that why i change my own oil. They just dont care. Slap on a filter, the wrong one, and blast it down to 200 ft lbs.
     
  8. Sep 5, 2024 at 5:19 PM
    #8
    Captain Spalding

    Captain Spalding . . .

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2022
    Member:
    #25492
    Messages:
    2,029
  9. Sep 5, 2024 at 9:23 PM
    #9
    glwood54

    glwood54 Stop making me buy stuff!

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2019
    Member:
    #10964
    Messages:
    6,580
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Gary
    Albuquerque, NM
    Vehicle:
    2019 OR, KDSS, RSG sliders, Eibach shocks, 265/70 Falken Wildpeaks
    You just discovered the difference between the factory where your 4Runner was built, with great attention to detail, and a dealer who only cares about making a quick buck.
     
  10. Sep 13, 2024 at 11:21 AM
    #10
    rickystl

    rickystl New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2020
    Member:
    #17250
    Messages:
    804
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Rick
    St. Louis, MO
    Vehicle:
    2021 TRD/Off-Road Premium
    I've read here on this Forum where they mistake (?) and use the shorter filer for the RAV4 instead of the longer one for the 4Runner. Apparently their part numbers are the same, less one numeral/letter. When I take mine in for an oil change, I have them show me the filter first.
     
  11. Sep 13, 2024 at 2:26 PM
    #11
    Greg D

    Greg D New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2019
    Member:
    #10809
    Messages:
    765
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Greg
    Vehicle:
    2013 4runner
    Borla exhaust, Jet MAF sensor, K&N filter, Hayden rapid cool transmission cooler, Hella horns, electric fan, Pedal Commander, Derale power steering cooler,
    Lack of attention to detail by 10 year old oil change boy. Reading is fundamental if you don't know. He apparently didn't. Mine had Chinese metal filter housing and my filter didn't fit right either. It had a short filter and I was puzzled how it was even circulating properly let alone filtering. Replaced with Toyotas OEM plastic housing and A5 fits correctly now. Oil change guy was probably like a drive thru service. He assumed parts guy did his job correctly so he just used what he was given and assumed he was doing his job correctly. I can't pay for assumptions. Reason I change my own.
     
  12. Sep 13, 2024 at 3:26 PM
    #12
    3JOH22A

    3JOH22A Toyota Gigolo

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2022
    Member:
    #30349
    Messages:
    2,116
    Gender:
    Male
    District 6ix
    Vehicle:
    5G 4Runner, 3G Tacoma on 35"s
    A1 filter used in the 2GR is significantly more common (Tacoma, Camry, Highlander, Sienna...). The lube tech does 15 filter changes a day. After a while they all look the same...
     
  13. Sep 13, 2024 at 4:23 PM
    #13
    Greg D

    Greg D New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2019
    Member:
    #10809
    Messages:
    765
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Greg
    Vehicle:
    2013 4runner
    Borla exhaust, Jet MAF sensor, K&N filter, Hayden rapid cool transmission cooler, Hella horns, electric fan, Pedal Commander, Derale power steering cooler,
    He should be able to recognize part numbers after a while. I did 33 oil changes a day covering for oil change guy, but I'm attention to detail, photo memory type. Can't get fast until you get a good efficient routine. It was a lot easier with 2 racks. Mine uses A5. I think when my filter was to short it was just circulating oil and not filtering. I don't know how it could not seated on top and bottom of canister. I want a remote oil filter kit and screw on filters. Next project.
     
  14. Sep 13, 2024 at 5:55 PM
    #14
    icebear

    icebear Recovered Kia Owner

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2023
    Member:
    #36091
    Messages:
    1,000
    Vehicle:
    2021 Toyota 4Runner SR5
    If it fits it ships!
     
    Greg D likes this.
  15. Sep 14, 2024 at 2:14 PM
    #15
    Greg D

    Greg D New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2019
    Member:
    #10809
    Messages:
    765
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Greg
    Vehicle:
    2013 4runner
    Borla exhaust, Jet MAF sensor, K&N filter, Hayden rapid cool transmission cooler, Hella horns, electric fan, Pedal Commander, Derale power steering cooler,
    I don't remember if it was you or not, but here's the replacement skid plate bolts I used. Longer because of my diff drop, but they screw right in stripped skid holes.

    17263484373852518157087288680675.jpg
     
  16. Sep 14, 2024 at 3:03 PM
    #16
    Rupp1

    Rupp1 New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2021
    Member:
    #23959
    Messages:
    174
    Gender:
    Male
    NC
    Vehicle:
    2017 SR5 Premium RWD Starlight Black
    A few years ago I decided to buy a Baxter spin-on adapter. They aren’t cheap, but super solid. This isn’t mine, but this is still a 5th gen with one on it. All you see is the 1” black aluminum part right above the filter. Been loving it.
    upload_2024-9-14_18-3-5.jpg
     
    Greg D likes this.
  17. Sep 14, 2024 at 3:11 PM
    #17
    Greg D

    Greg D New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2019
    Member:
    #10809
    Messages:
    765
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Greg
    Vehicle:
    2013 4runner
    Borla exhaust, Jet MAF sensor, K&N filter, Hayden rapid cool transmission cooler, Hella horns, electric fan, Pedal Commander, Derale power steering cooler,
    I had a transmission filter on a truck like that before. How much and is it inside engine compartment? Nice if Metal Tundra filter would fit. Big Wix is good to. I have read about it. I guess after the radiator and intake I will finish with that.
     
  18. Sep 14, 2024 at 3:12 PM
    #18
    Greg D

    Greg D New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2019
    Member:
    #10809
    Messages:
    765
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Greg
    Vehicle:
    2013 4runner
    Borla exhaust, Jet MAF sensor, K&N filter, Hayden rapid cool transmission cooler, Hella horns, electric fan, Pedal Commander, Derale power steering cooler,
    I will Groogle it
     

Products Discussed in

To Top