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Built in Japan?

Discussion in '6th Gen 4Runners (2025+)' started by bigshmoop, Apr 9, 2024.

  1. Apr 9, 2024 at 7:26 PM
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    I along with many other assumed that the next gen would be build along said the Tacoma in Mexico. According to Doug's video he says it will be built in Japan. Has there been any official word yet?

     
  2. Apr 9, 2024 at 7:34 PM
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    Sounds official, lots of places are saying this.
     
  3. Apr 9, 2024 at 7:39 PM
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    TRD Jon said it was built in Japan.
     
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  4. Apr 10, 2024 at 12:22 AM
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    At least the QC will be up to snuff if it’s out of the Tahara plant vs Mexico.
     
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  5. Apr 10, 2024 at 8:41 PM
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    Idk about quality control at Tahara anymore. My 2022 ORP has rust on the tailgate from the plastic garnish being fitted too tightly causing the paint to flake off and rust.

    2 years, 13,000 kms.
     
  6. Apr 11, 2024 at 5:20 AM
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    No manufacturing plant is without fault, but I'd take Tahara over pretty much any other major automakers plants by a country mile.

    That being said, the issue you're experiencing has popped up with other owners and been fixed under warranty. Bring it back to the dealer and have them take a look.
     
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    Every 4runner that has ever been made has come out of Japan. Side by side with the FJ while they were still being produced.

    You can thank the government's 25% chicken tax for that. Otherwise everything Toyota made might still be coming out of Japan.
     
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    yeah, tahara is toyota's pride and joy and favorite child.

    when you put 80% of your lexus production in one plant, i would say i would take the odd's out of tahara than any other plant for toyota or any other oem in the world.

    and tahara is where most of the halo cars come out of. the ls400 debut came out of that plant and that vehicle changed the luxo vehicle landscape
     
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  9. Apr 11, 2024 at 5:48 AM
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    I wonder if 2025 4Runner Trail Hunter would have a final assembly here in the USA like the TRD Pro?
     
  11. Apr 11, 2024 at 7:19 AM
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    How do you define final assembly? In the indususty "assembly" is what they do at the plant in Tahara, using parts and subasemblies sourced all over the world. The TRD Pro package is they technically called a "port modification" by Toyota. They bolt on different wheels and a few other parts but 90% of it arrives assembled from Japan. I think its the same deal with some of the region specific packages sold in Toyota south for example.

    I suspect (and this is a guess, so take it for what little its worth) that the new Pro and Trailhunter trims will like come complete from Tahara. I have to imagine thatch cheaper overall than the current practice of building it complete with suspension and wheels, shipping it, taking those parts off and replacing with others and shipping the parts back. Being that the TRD Pros started as a mid cycle refresh add on I suspect Toyota USA came up with it and it was easier to hack it on at delivery than make a major change to the existing production line. This time they are starting from a blank sheet of paper.

    But again, this is all wild speculation and I may be completely wrong.
     
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    I meant like current 5th gen TRD Pros come, would they also come as TRD Offroad but with steel wheels, then here in USA they get suspension, wheels, tires, roof rack, skids & badges? Since Toyota USA doing this for 5th gen TRD Pro I think it would be piece of cake for them to make the Trail Hunter right? (or not)?
     
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  13. Apr 11, 2024 at 7:24 AM
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    all FIO packages (factory installed options) are assembled on the factory line.

    all PIO (port installed options) are done usually at regional ports or in the case of usa plant outside of the factory line.


    FIO are usually the packages listed on the toyota website, rest is considered PIO or DIO (dealer installed options can be a PIO item after a vehicle has moved on from a regional port)
     
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    What happened to the member who confirmed USA built?
     
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    need the bueller meme :) lol
     
  17. Apr 18, 2024 at 8:44 PM
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    They need to keep the history going by keeping it built in Japan.
     
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    Given the current USD/Yen conversion, Toyota should be cranking as many Japan built cars out as possible right now and striking while the irons hot. Haha.
     
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    I would not be surprised if 6th Gen 4Runner production moved to Mexico along side the Tacoma at some point in the future.
     
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    From 5 months ago.

    Handful of 2024 4Runners in this video
    Final GX of the old gen rolling off.
    First 2025 Lexus GX 550 rolling off assembly line
    Probably some of the last 5th gens to come off the line.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikKByP6H_58
     
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    None of this post makes any sense whatsoever.

    1. Those are far from the last 5th gens leaving Tahara, outside of being 2024s. Vehicle production doesn't work like that, when those probably were delivered to dealers in December 2023/January 2024.
    2. Those are not 2025 GX 550s.
    Claiming "some of the last 5th gens to come off the line" only makes any bit of sense, if you're counting the whole 2024 model year. Those were some of the first 100k+ 4Runners being built for the 2024 model year overall, which began production last October. 2024 production probably ends this August.

    The GX barely debuted as a '24, so I don't get why some dudes keep calling it a 2025 and ditto for the LC250?
     
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    MY production switch over is typically in august/september, but actual units arriving in usa is typically 8-10 weeks after assembly line production (ship transit time from japan)
     
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    here is a very old change over date doc i found for usa plants only.

    first date column is build out in 2004

    second date column is job 1 2005

    not sure what those mean, so if someone has an idea and want to clarify :)



    toyota usa changeover dates old.png
     
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    Build-Out Date means the last calendar date that a Model shall be manufactured for a particular Model Year.

    Job 1 is first run of new production year.

    ---

    Some websites track this info and publish.

    Regarding custom deliveries, Toyota has a somewhat diff approach than other manufacturers. The way I understand it is this.

    Toyota factory will periodically release an allocation batch to a dealership. In the case of the Tacoma, the factory will tell the dealer - “You will get 12 Tacomas.” If a dealer has a customer that wants a specific Tacoma they will tell the factory they want a certain build, and here is where it gets interesting, if that build happens to be in the scheduled production run for that round, often the dealer will usually get the order. But, if someone were to ask for a Tacoma TRD Off-Road Double-Cab w/5ft Bed 4x4 manual in Luna Rock, and that combination is not on the schedule, the customer is out of luck until the next round of allocations gets released, and maybe the perfect truck will be in that batch. If not, they have to keep waiting until their configuration just happens to get on the schedule.

    If you want a truck from Ford, Ram, Jeep, or GM the dealer tells the factory “Make us one of these like this” and as long as the allocation slot is available that request is usually granted. Whereas a Toyota dealer will say to the factory “I’d like a truck like this please” and the factory response is along the lines of “Yeah…we will see about that.”

    Where things get even more difficult is that Toyota will schedule the configurations that are the most popular based on previous sales data, so if not a lot of people bought the manual truck in the past few years, the factory isn’t going to make a ton of manual trucks. Of course, this can create the cycle of Toyota not making things because people aren’t buying them, and people aren’t buying them because Toyota doesn’t make that many.
     
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    technically the factory allocation is between the region and toyota plant. the region and dealer then determine who gets what.

    each region has a different allocation requirement that the dealers have to stay within.

    ie: when i bought our 2023 tundra (original request was a 22 but it took forever to fulfill our allocation reserve request), our regional port required us to select automatic running boards (RB) if we selected the AQ option code (AVS+HUD)
     
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    but the allocation process is the same no matter the toyota model

    i just happen to document our 2018 tundra and 2023 tundra, since my 14 4R was way before i started tracking this info and had indepth access to the process :)
     
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    That is what I was stating, Lots of information that intermingles between the lines.
     
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    hopefully i can document my 2025 4r platinum :)
     
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