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4.88 gears with 33” tires. Bad idea?

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010-2024)' started by Forever, Jul 15, 2023.

  1. Jul 15, 2023 at 11:54 PM
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    Forever

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    I’m looking to regear soon and need some advice/opinions.

    background:

    Mildly built 4Runner SR5. Basic specs include a lift, 33x10.5 tires, bumper, winch, roof rack etc. naturally, the larger tires and weight made an already slow car even slower, though it was livable.

    I recently moved to Colorado from Washington, and the power robbing altitude exacerbated the problem even more. Mountain pass highways can easily exceed 10,000ft elevation, and when fully loaded down with a weekends worth of camping gear, my 4r is pretty dang gutless. To the point where it gets a little sketchy.

    my plan is to regear and throw in ARBS front and rear. 4.56s would be ideal for my 33” kendas. Though I know eventually I’ll want to move up to their 35x10.5 tire size, cause who doesn’t want 35s. Which 4.88s would be ideal
    For. I don’t wanna re gear now and then re gear again a year or so down the road. Do it nice or do it twice as the saying goes.

    so my question is, if I were to re gear to 4.88s while still on my 33s, would that be significantly over driving the power train? I really don’t go above 60mph during my weekly commute and mostly take back roads. I’m not familiar with any potential concerns or problems that overgearing could bring besides high revs at speed.


    Any advice on the subject would be appreciated, thanks !
     
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  2. Jul 16, 2023 at 7:57 AM
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    Agent_Outside

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    Do the 4.88s, I’m running them on 255/80/17 and it’s perfectly fine. The drivability is great.
     
  3. Jul 16, 2023 at 8:17 AM
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    Too many..... Performance: • Magnusum Supercharger • Gibson exhaust with dual black tip • Pedal Commander * PowerBrakes • Suspension – Old Man Emu BP-51 front and back with Medium load coils • Tires: AT3 Faulken Wildpeak – 285/70/17 • Wheels: Relations Race Wheels, RR7-H with -12 offset • Full roof rack and ladder by Westcott Design (removed the stock Yakima basket) • Molle storage panels by Rago fabrication • Front light brackets by Rago • Illuminator light bracket by Rago (roof rack location) Lights • Morimoto front and back with sequential signals • Morimoto fog lights and side mirrors with sequential signals • 40” Baja design light bar for roof rack • 20” S8 Baja design driving combo (winch location) • Squadron sport baja design ditch lights • S2 Chase lights by baja designs (mounted on roof) In the bay: • Odyssey 34-PC Battery • SDQH Aluminum billet battery terminals and bracket • Switch Pro 9100 with aluminum tray • Anytime front and back camera • ARB twin compressor Recovery & Protection: • Smittybilt X20 synthetic rope winch • Factor 55 fairlead and flatlink • Southern Style Off-road (SSO) low profile bumper • SSO stage 2 high clearance wings • Weekend warrior recovery kit by treaty oak • RCI – skid plates – entire vehicle + catalytic converter protection wings Interior: • Nano Ceramic IR – Avery Dennison Window tint – all windows • Several phone mounts • Upgraded Rear Hatch lift gate struts (ladder is heavy) • Boom blaster horn switch (featuring La cucaracha)
    If you are certain you are doing 35's soon, then go with 488's. I'm doing right now 456 but I'm not planning to go to 35's and I have a supercharger so 488's won't be suitable for me. It seems most people go to 488's though.
     
  4. Jul 16, 2023 at 10:25 AM
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    Good to hear, seeing as we have pretty similar tire sizes.
     
  5. Jul 16, 2023 at 1:45 PM
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    4.88 and I’ll add that the biggest issue with ARB is a botched install.

    So I went with ECGS, get the built 3rd members from them. They do ARB installs all day long and really know what they’re doing with both the differential setup and ARB Installs.

    While you’re at it, get the bushing to replace the needle bearing too.

    Good luck and Cheers
    Mike
     
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  6. Jul 18, 2023 at 6:00 PM
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    Or, you could buy the magnuson supercharger. Or do both
     
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  7. Jul 18, 2023 at 6:05 PM
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    I just installed the Magnuson and have stock gearing. I'm also running 285/70/17 tires. It's right where I want to be with that combination. If I was running 35's with the supercharger I'd likely opt for the 4.56. Without the supercharger and planning on 35" tires 4.88 sounds suitable.
     
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  8. Jul 18, 2023 at 6:11 PM
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    Oh very nice! I have rebuilt a rear end before. A ford 8.8 31 spline. 94 F150, 3.73 gears, added a lunchbox locker. It isn't fun. And you really don't want to pay a shop twice to do it. I kinda regret not going to 4.10s, but you do start losing mileage. I imagine the supercharger pulls 33s fine without the regear. 35s, you probably want to talk to Jeep and big boi truck people. 4.88 is only 7% bigger than the 4.56, so that isn't a big difference. May as well go big, but definitely talk to some knowledgeable people. Buy once, cry once!
     
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  9. Nov 14, 2023 at 11:12 AM
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    Greg D

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    Will Tacoma diffs or gears fit in 5th gen? I would like their 4:30s.
     
  10. Nov 17, 2023 at 11:08 AM
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    i had 4.56’s in a super duty 6.0L with 37” tires. it ripped but i probably would have been happier with 4.11’s. just depends on how and where you drive. for the highway, probably a bit too low. city was fine though.
     

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