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60K Service Not Recommended Until 100k

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010-2024)' started by BB4Runner81, Apr 1, 2025 at 6:42 AM.

  1. Apr 1, 2025 at 6:42 AM
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    OK, so I just rolled in for my 55k service and wanted a quote for 60k service... the technician tells me I don't need any of the fluids replaced until 100k unless I am towing very often.

    Is this what others are told as well ?

    TIA
     
  2. Apr 1, 2025 at 6:57 AM
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    Transmission should be done at 60k. Also, have you done the differentials (front and back) and the transfer case? I think the diffs are every 20k miles. Dont forget to lube the drive shaft as well.
     
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    Engine oil and filter get replaced every 5K. The additional fluids fall under "Special Operating Conditions" which state that if you're towing, using a car-top carrier, or heavy vehicle loading, they should be replaced. It's in the manual. Obviously if you absolutely want it done, it's your vehicle and your money. Make them do it. The technician is basically telling you it's not necessary unless it falls under these conditions.
     
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    Ask five people get four answers. Ultimately it's up to you what you want to do.

    I'm probably going to target 50k but I don't think it's going to really be noticeable if I waited to 70k, but hey.
     
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    1 ) Open the Warranty and Service book came with your 4runner. (If you don't have the manuals, you can download from Toyota.com too..).
    2) Check for the maintenance needed for normal driving conditions. Those are a must.
    3) See if you fall into special driving conditions (per Toyota) , like Driving on dirt roads, towing, having car top carrier, etc..

    I don't know when I went to Dealership for service when I give a list of maintenance items to do and never ask me any questions. They offer additional services if needed and I decide to deny or to do. Now I'm going to a Toyota Specialist independent shop. Same story. I tell them what I need and they suggest if anything else needed.


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  6. Apr 1, 2025 at 8:06 AM
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    Appreciate this. I'll read through it again.
    Thank you
     
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    They probably wont do the 60k right, nor the 100k. So i wouldnt worry about it.
     
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    What is condition of the under hood fluids? Brake, PS, coolant? How about engine air filter? Any downside to changing early?

    Ask your self who loses from driving with worn out fluids. Fluids are cheap compared to the components they protect. The tranny is an expensive major part of your rig. Why risk damage.
    Check out this screen shot of an ATF chart :


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    Unless you tow a lot I would wait until 100K. I also wouldn’t let the dealer do it as they will surely screw something up.
     
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    Ha!! That's no shit.
    Funny that I've gone from "what's diff fluid" on my '86 to anal retentive on my '19. I think on my '86 I never did the tranny (manual), ever, and only did the diffs and t-case when I went straight axle and crawler gear in the t-case at about 150k. And never any problem, but I did keep up fully on the under hood stuff.
    :crapstorm:
     
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    For the brake fluid replacement just wait until your calipers seize up and replace the fluid when you replace them.
     
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    Definitely do diff and T case fluid. I do them very often for folks, and recommend every 30k miles.

    Brake fluid Definitely do by 60k. Even if it looks OK.

    Trans fluid is a toss up. Some say wait. Coolant as well. The newer Toyota coolant and trans fluid are pretty durable.
     
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    This sounds like a snarky comment, but it's the truth. Calipers on these are consumables just like that pads.
     
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    Please tell me you're joking.
     
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    Amen brother. Fluids are cheap a trans/engine or really anything that needs that fluid is expensive. Plus the trans/diffs/transfer case are super easy to do.
     
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    I’m not joking. Some of you guys are insane with how often you change fluids. My Tacoma is at 200K miles and has the original brake fluid. My 4Runner has 120K and just got some brake fluid changed when I replaced a caliper a few weeks ago. It needs another caliper replaced soon too. Replace your engine oil regularly everything else lasts a long time.
     
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    Doesn't need any
    I've never changed gear oil in any manual transmission/differential on my lige unless I was servicing it for other reasons.
     
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    Same. Only diffs when i do/did some long deep water crossings, or gear changing. Im not doing my trans in this rig, unless it scatters itself on the trail/highway. (2018 w/120k and counting up fast)
     
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