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ALL Terrain tires for the limited

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010-2024)' started by orcking, Dec 1, 2024.

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More 20" All Terrain tires

  1. Yokohama Geolandar g015

    33.3%
  2. Falken wildpeak at3w

    55.6%
  3. bfg ko2

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  4. Cooper at3

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  1. Dec 1, 2024 at 10:34 PM
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    orcking

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    I know most people prefer the 17" wheels.. However, some like the 20s look as well...

    We have very few all terrain options for the limited.....

    Who would like to see more all terrain options like the Geolander G015 and the falken wildpeak
    offered in the 245/60/20 size?

    I have seen some odd sizes on the limited and they look really good , however they would change from the stock size...
     
  2. Dec 2, 2024 at 12:01 AM
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    Look into Michelin LTX A/T 2. The tread is mildly aggressive looking.
    I had them on my 4R for over 85,000 miles and was very pleased with them. They were quiet on pavement and worked well on dirt, sand, and minor rock crawling. Even some very careful gnarly rock crawling.

    When it was time to replace them I switched to Falken Wildpeak AT4W because of the more rugged terrain I’ve been tackling. If I was keeping it milder I would have bought another set of the Michelins. I like how the Falkens perform; my only complaint is they are louder on pavement than the Michelins, and since they are heavier, the MPGs suffer a little.
     
  3. Dec 2, 2024 at 12:15 AM
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    Now that I look into it, … never mind. The Michelins are not available in your size. :notsure:
     
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    its very interesting when I search in Discount Tire I don't see any of the options listed in voting.

    Based on what I see my top choice based on my experience with a different size would be Toyo OC AT3.

    I believe BFG Trail & Falken Wildpeak AT trail would be good for light duty as well. All 3 of them are standard load so should be comfy on road and not kill mpg.


    I have also tried 275/55R20 after I lift mine. Not sure 100% if it can be done without lift since I havn't tried personally but a high possibility without lift imo. The reason to tell that is 275/55R20 seem to have more options.
     
  5. Dec 2, 2024 at 8:39 AM
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    Why would you bother with 20" ATs? They look dumb, are bad offroad, and reduce on road performance.
     
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    Oooh look, another mod.....

    Josh, how do you really feel about them?

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    What kind of off road driving will you be doing? If you are just going on dirt forest roads once a year, you can get 20" AT tires, but you will suffer on road as no AT tire is as good on road as a good road tire. If you want to do more than a dirt road go with 17"-taller sidewall, more durable, better in all metrics for off road.

    For my Limited, I bought new take off ORP wheels and went with Wildpeaks. I put winter tires-Blizzaks on my stock 20's.
     
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  8. Dec 2, 2024 at 8:57 AM
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    I love the 20" wheels look and like the AT wheels for looks as well..
    I do not do any offroad
     
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    If you like the looks go for the Falken Wildpeaks. Others run those on their Limited's. There are pics posted here.
     
  10. Dec 2, 2024 at 9:11 AM
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    orcking

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    The problem they do not come in 245/60/20 standard Limited size....
     
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    Go to Tire Rack and type in the size you want and then look at the A/T tires.
     
  12. Dec 2, 2024 at 9:21 AM
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    Negative...

    that size has limited options.....
     
  13. Dec 2, 2024 at 9:30 AM
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    Yeah, AT tires are not meant for 20's. And it's not going to ride that well for its normal intended use so it really does not matter which ones you get. Any that will fit and apparently there is only 1 option Toyo Open Country A/T III.
     
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  15. Dec 2, 2024 at 10:54 AM
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    nice tire...

    how does it compare to the atw3 and how does it perform on snow?
     
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    Between Falken Wildpeak AT3W vs Toyo Open Country AT3 both in size 285/70R17 on 4Runner, Toyo OC was better for my taste but by a very small margin. If you compare with something like Goodyear Wrangler Duratrac the Duratrac are a winner by a big margin in snow.
     
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  17. Dec 2, 2024 at 11:34 AM
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    I have had multiple sets of these Limited wheels on multiple vehicles and probably run 300,000+ miles on them. I bought my first set in 2011 after they came out and put on my Tacoma. I put the 285/55-20 BFgoody tires on them. I liked the wheels so much i bought my wife a 2012 Limited 4R in 2012 and immediately put her a set of the BFgoody tires on hers. I wore my set of BFG out pretty quick running the roads like i do and in 2014 replaced them with a set of General AT/2 tires. The wife loved them so much i put my wheels on her 4R and i ran her wheels and wore the BFG out and replaced them with another set of the General AT/2 tires. I have owned 5 sets of these wheels on Toyota vehicles and put all terrain tires on them pretty much day1. I absolutely love the look, performance, and wear of the General AT/X (current model) tires and i would recommend you look at them.

    These are the sizes they are available in that will fit your vehicle with minimal to no mods. I have owned the 285/55, multiple sets of the 305/50, and one set of the 275/55. I can guide you thru what lift you need if you choose one of the bigger wider sizes. I personally prefer the wider sizes and love the look but it does require at minimum 1.5" lift and pinning the inner fender liners forward on the passengers side.
    265/50-20 - 30.4" x 10.4"
    275/55-20 - 31.9" x 10.8"
    305/50-20 - 32.0" X 12.0"
    285/55-20 - 32.3" X 11.2"
    265/60-20 - 32.5" x 10.4"

    Your stock tire size is a
    245/60-20 - 31.6" x 9.6"

    Pictured at bottom is the 305/50-20 i like the most.

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  18. Dec 2, 2024 at 11:39 AM
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    This is blasphemy. I absolutely and i mean ABSOLUTELY love my tires on my 20" wheels. Matter of fact my 20 year old Tundra with the stock 265/65-17 LoadRange C tires rode worse than my General 275/55-20 ride. You can hear it in the 20 year old plastic dash rattling over bumps and potholes, with the stock tires on stock wheels, the amount of rattles in the dash was far greater than with my 20" limited wheels and General AT/X tire. The dash is practically silent now only hear the creaking of the dash against the firewall on big hits. I keep telling myself i am going to pull the dash and put felt pads under all the mount points but the new tires REALLY helped it out.
    The 305/50-20 i put on all my 4Runners ride like an absolute dream and last freaking forever. This set here is the 4th set of the 305/50-20 i have bought and run and i can assure you i wont own any other tire for this vehicle. They ride absolutely amazing and work in every condition.

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  19. Dec 2, 2024 at 7:52 PM
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    Nice trucks and tires man..
    I agree the look of the wider tires on the 4Runner look more musculant.. And I am like you , I love the 20" wheels. They look great.....
    No reason for me to go to 17" unless I want to go rock crawling, which I do not..
    The point of this thread is to make tire manufacturers like Yokohama and Falken to make more sizes in the 245/60/20 stock..
    The 305/50-20 is very close overall height 32" vs 31.6" for stock.. I am really surprised that you fit this wide tire on the 7" wide wheel...
    I want to see all these tires listed in the poll available to stock limited runners...
     
  20. Dec 2, 2024 at 8:12 PM
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    I have had 4 sets of the 305/50-20 on Limited wheels. One on my tacoma, one on my 2012 4R, one on my Tundra, and one on my current 4R. They have no problem, i love them. To fit the 305/50-20 without any rubbing you need about 2.25" of lift up front and pin the floorboards forward on the passengers and drivers side. This will fit them without any rubbing anywhere including the mud flaps.

    I dont think you are going to find a ton of replacement tires in the stock size, they are pizza cutters, tall and thin. This is not a common tire size you would do much better off getting a 265/55 or 275/55 tire if you wanted to be real close to the stock'ish size and have tire options. There are a bunch of tire manufacturers that make the 275/55 tire and it fits no real problem just pin the fender liners forward. If you want to not pin the fender liners forward do a 1.5" lift up front and you can run the 275/55 with no rubbing.
     
  21. Dec 2, 2024 at 8:18 PM
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    Great info..
    using the tire calculator both 275/55 and 265/55 are very close to stock
    so I can run both of these without lift if I just pin the fender liner forward?

    another question.. I am ditching my Xreas soon and thinking of getting Eibach stage 1 shocks that can go 0-2" lift.
    If I go that route and lift about 1.5" as suggested.. should I lift the rear or leave alone (just change the shocks and no new springs)?
    would that affect the front differential if lifting the fronts only..

    Thanks again
     
  22. Dec 2, 2024 at 8:35 PM
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    If you are a Limited 4wd, i would not lift it over 1.5" up front unless you plan to do diff drop brackets.
    If you lift it +1.5" up front you will be "practically" level with a slight amount of forward rake.
    If you lift it more than +1.5" up front you will need to also lift the rear to keep it level.
    Both my 4R have been +2.5" up front with diff drop down brackets and +1" in the rear to keep them level.
    Pretty sure the Eibach shocks that have the clips are +3/4" for every clip so running on the second clip would be +1.5" lift.
    If your Xreas is not busted, you would be better off with a spacer above the shock. You will be surprised at how good the Xreas rides compared to aftermarket, even the Eibach shock doesnt compare to how well the Xreas rides.
     
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    hmm.... thanks for the head up...
    One of the front shocks started a small leak..
    I can buy a new set of Xreas shocks and replace them.. Just not sure if that would solve the issue...

    I really do not want to lift , I just want to keep the stock comfy ride . If I go after market, what would be the closest thing to Xreas?
    Bilstein 4600, Eibachs Stage 1, with stock springs? coilovers? SR5 Tokico struts? etc...

    Xreas.jpg
     
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    If you get it early enough before its lost too much fluid and nitrogen, you can replace "THAT" shock and be good. If you have lost too much nitrogen and oil its not going to ever be the same. That shock is linked to the other shocks in an elaborate X pattern with lines and expansion canisters. These expansion canisters are pressurized with nitrogen and oil for the shock like a huge remote mount reservoir shock assembly. The shock you see leaking is leaking, but its also leaking the fluid and nitrogen out of the whole linked system. If the system loses too much its going to never act the same.

    The Eibach adjustables ride nicer than the Bilstein adjustables IMHO but neither will feel like the stock Xreas.
    The Eibach adjustables ride as good or nicer than the OEM Bilstein non-adjustables. Neither of which will hold a candle to the Xreas in on-road driving though.
    If you had the ability to replace that shock and not cost too much, get it and a small spacer lift up front like a 1/2" to 3/4" spacer to put on top of the Xreas shock which will give you like 3/4" to 1.2" of lift and run the 275/55 tire of your choice. This is easy, you can slip in a spacer lift in an hour or less if you are handy with tools. This wont change how it rides at all, just bump the front end up a bit. The 275s fit stock, plenty of people here have run them, but they rub the inner fender which you will have to pin forward and the 275 fills the fender up much bigger than the stock tire. I prefer the look of the 4R with the front end up just a bit but thats just me.
     
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    How come you have to do a diff drop if you go over 1.5"?
     
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    The Limited 4R has a full time 4wd system
    The Limited 4R has a front diff that is sensitive to axle angles. If you go over a certain axle angle you risk the front diff locking up. I had the +2.5" on my 2012 and it would lock up if i stepped up over a curb. As the wheel droops, the axle angle increases, and the front diff which is load sensitive locks the diff up. This not only scares you because you cant turn, but you can hear it audibly and feel it. Its meant so that if you have a tire drop down into a hole, the front end locks up and give that tire in the hole more "bite" so the tire will spin. Using the diff drop down brackets this "helps" eliminate the harsher axle angles and reduce the likelihood that the front diff locks up on its own in a pot hole going down the road.
     
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    Ahhh interesting, I haven't come across that info yet, good to know. There seems to be a fair amount of lifted limiteds out there and this is the first I'm hearing of that occuring. I wonder if it's happening to others and they are oblivious or perhaps don't want to admit a downside to their lift?
     
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    You can lift a 2wd limited 3" without any worries
    You can lift a 4wd Limited 3" as well, but every slow speed deep pothole you are likely going to have the front diff kick in when the tire droops down.
    I did a +2.5" and mine would do it if i climbed over something, especially when the tire drooped down. It only did it twice before i did the diff drop down brackets.
    If you notice almost EVERY lift that is specific to the Limited stops around +1.5" or specifies you to use diff drop down brackets.
     
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    I don't have that experience either.
    My 2019 Limited was lifted with Bilstien5100 2.5 inches front and 1.5in rear, no diff drop kit + stock UCA in 2020 and have not experience this problem.
    Then in 2021 Me and my friend installed Ironman FCP 2.25 inches front and 1.5in rear, no diff drop kit + stock UCA, still have not experience this problem. On the test video I did I was taking a turn on pavement fast and also did loose sand fast turn. Didn't feel that. Also when I climb on the rock at an angle to test the articulation did feel any issue as well.
     
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    That is interesting.

    I would think this would be the same issue for other trims when 4x4 is engaged....
    Or it could be specific for the torsen differential on the limited
     
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