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VOA of good quality oils

Discussion in '6th Gen 4Runners (2025+)' started by Yotaholic, Nov 22, 2024.

  1. Nov 22, 2024 at 9:57 PM
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    I'm not getting a 6th gen, I'm getting the GX550, so we will have one thing in common, a turbo that runs hot.
    So I sent a sample of each for VOA. I will share the report here when I get it. Let's take good care of our turbos folks and rack up big miles and smiles.
    Premium motor oil is cheap compared to these modern motors

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    Oh boy here we go already, before the 4Runner has even hit the lots. Lol
     
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    Owner's manual for 2024 Taco specifies the same 0W20 as you are used to for the past 14 years. The NA motors have gone to 0W16.
     
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    You’re obsessed with oil. How many threads are you going to start with those same oil photos in it? Just follow the owners manual and move on.
     
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  5. Dec 3, 2024 at 1:57 PM
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    HPL report just came. HPL likes Moly more than Toyota lol

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    Strange Obsessions is the name of my new indie band.
     
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    Amsoil SS

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    I don't understand. Please break the results down to me like I was...
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    Good data. Still planning on 3k mile oil changes for the GX?
     
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  10. Dec 3, 2024 at 4:17 PM
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    Only if he wants the engine to blow at 2k. 1k changes or BUST
     
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    Eh I share his concern. Toyota execs just toured the engine remanufacturing plant I work at. They want 200 engines a day. We already make 350 a day and we're nearly at max capacity with Ford, GM, Chrysler, Volvo and Subaru. Wild stuff to see Toyota here and hear about contracts being drawn up.
     
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    Soooo... you're saying that Toyota recently toured your engine remanufacturing plant and want to increase your capacity by 57% compared to the 5 automakers already maxing your capacity? That's a 285% increase over any single automaker, assuming an even spread of engine remanufacturing.

    What are these remanufactured engines used for? Warranty replacements?
     
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    Yes we do OE replacement and aftermarket engines. Mix of short blocks, long blocks, and fully dressed engines.

    We told them we can do 100 a day. We're hoping for the contract otherwise one of our competitors will get it.
     
  14. Dec 3, 2024 at 4:33 PM
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    7.5k if I go HPL. 12.6 TBN and almost 2000 Magnesium, that's nuts!
     
  15. Dec 3, 2024 at 4:36 PM
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    I always knew HPL was good, but I didn't know the thing is this good
     
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    That doesn't sound good at all for anyone buying a new Toyota. According to those sadistics, they are expecting a 2.5x higher engine failure rate over other manufacturers. Not what they are known for
     
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    I haven't received the Pennzoil report yet, but I know what it will read. Pennzoil's base oil is pretty amazing, so it doesn't need as much additives. Pennzoil is colorless like water if it wasn't for the additives, that's how pure it is. This gas to liquid thing is pretty fascinating
     
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    Toyota is not planning for a high warranty rate in the future. They are reacting to the issue with the tundra engine. These numbers come from dealership’s replacement times for affected engines. Not future warranty. The sky is not falling, they are just simply trying to get the customers who have bought a new Tundra taken care of as fast as possible. It will likely be a short contract. Maybe 2-4 years.
     
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    Compared to others, Toyota will still remain the better one, but compared to Toyota of 30 years ago, that's a different story
     
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    Does anyone remember how bad of a start the gx460 had? I think the 3.4 will be fine,
     
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    @Yotaholic I'll see your turbo and raise 3 spares... (which means you can keep your turbo 4 and I'll watch from here...) :popcorn:
     
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    Suggest a fun handle for the Lexus forum :)
     
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    You peasants stay here, I'm going Lexus
     
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    I don’t actually. What happened?

    I see GX460’s everywhere. I view them as the V8 4runner with Lexus badges and all the amenities you’d want
     
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    GX motor had some problems in the early years as far as I remember.
     
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    470? Oh you’re going way back. The 460’s are relatively new I’m more familiar with those.

    Regardless what’s nice about Toyota is they are taking initiative and taking care of their customers. Unlike Ford’s Bronco which started dropping valves and an investigation was launched before they finally did something about it.

    I’m sure the GX550 will be great. They also look sweet!
     
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    The new GX is amazing
     
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    Are you saying that the Tundra engines are going to be replaced with remanufactured engines instead of new ones? Do the owners of the trucks know this?
     
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    This is how most manufacturers do it. Especially when you account for closed production lines for older engines. Or there is simply a higher warranty rate than the manufacturer anticipated.

    Im sure Toyota wants to keep their stuff in house as much as possible, and they will replace as many as they can with Toyota new engines. But they can only do this so fast… as they’ll need to keep new Tundra’s coming. So a remanufacturer will likely be helping until all affected engines are replaced.

    So to answer your question more directly. No, not every one will be remanned.

    Personally I trust our engines more than I trust an engine directly from most manufacturers.

    We constantly are fead supply of new blocks, heads, cranks to supplement our plant when we’re low on core for whatever reason. We measure, test, and clean before assembly. Very often, we find problems and have to send these “new, ready for assembly” parts back to the manufacturer and tell them they cannot even hold their own specifications.
     
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