Whereabouts Unknown: Gen6

Toyota wants an engine it can keep around a while rather than eeking out minor gains from an older design.

It’s a lot of icing on this cake too that they share half(?) the components with the transverse passenger car 2.4T and it was designed with optional hybridization in mind so there’s pluses there too both in logistics and packaging.

I’m certain we’ll all be in vehicles with some electrification eventually but it will certainly vary from market segment to different regions.

Plug-in hybrids/range extended EV’s are ideal for a lot of suburban and urban use cases (I said the phrase!) and are the best “bang-for-limited-battery-supply” option and are less reliant on L2 charger installation.

 

A plug in hybrid would certainly fit my use-case. These really seem like the best compromise of the available technologies with now.

In many people's use-cases, an EV makes total sense, especially as a second vehicle, or in multi vehicle households.

In any use-case, you really just need to decide what type of vehicle fits your use-case best.

 

I doubt it will change much. Look at the averages. 2024 is 19.4 mpg. 2023 is 18.9 mpg. 2015 is 17.1 mpg. Basically gained 1 mpg per generation. That’s pretty pathetic.

 

I did look at the averages. I'm saying that I don't consider the data to be very reliable because most of the vehicles are very low mileage. The fuel economy on my 4Runner improved after a few thousand miles.

 

So maybe they gain 1 more mpg if lucky? Still not very impressive. The Tundra is another good example. It also only gained around 2 mpgs switching to a turbo engine. There’s even bigger problems there than the underperforming mpgs though.

 

Down in my area (New Orleans) I see mostly women driving in a Limited. I never noticed they had that many Limited models driving around until I sold the FJ and moved to a 4Runner.

 

Yeah, the Tundra certainly has had some issues.

We'll see. Maybe the fuel economy will only be marginally better. But, between that, and more power, it's still going to be appealing to a lot of people.

 

Just watched these Scout videos. They look pretty promising.
https://youtu.be/JQQGTfjiLvE?si=ZKLuejv8g_SlIW2_

https://youtu.be/oqeWH7197YI?si=lf4nMnKvqlb4HtE1

 

Looks nice.

Manufactured in S. Carolina.

Apparently the VW dealerships in US are filing a bunch of lawsuits because VW has decided to sell these direct to consumers and bypass them. Please let this start a trend among other manufacturers!

 

Direct to consumer. I like it even more now.

 

Local dealer said they should have their first Gen6 arriving Jan 6, already sold.












j/k

 

https://www.scoutmotors.com/

 

….Utilization cases…?

 

What would be the use case for this phrase?

 

Hold on a minute!!! Is this the locomotive diesel-electric type of vehicle I was hoping for (except gasoline-electric?

Gonna be watching some videos…this looks interesting

 

I think you could use-case this term for a broad variety situations. It could probably be utilized however anybody wants.

 

if they offer the Scout with a hard roof (doubtful), I might buy one.

Digging the simplicity. Looks nice and really like the tailgate spare.

Compared to all the bulky lines and ridiculous over badging on the new 4Runner, digging the Scout more. That's hard to say knowing it's a VW product.

 

Although VW owns "Scout", it's an American product...or close to it. That may be good, or bad.

 

Another 80" full-size wide vehicle so not jazzed.

Then again I'm not rolling in the money for one anyway so I'm not really the target market.

 

The 6th gen looks even more goofy when seen next to the Scout.

 

I couldn't get through the guy yapping in the scout video, and their website sucks.

Anyway, why do all of these EV 4×4's need to be so ugly? Maybe they're marketed towards people who are into video games and sci-fi movies?

 

Do you think the Scout is ugly?

 

It's mostly the front end. But, yeah, a little bit. Not as bad as the Rivian. And, definitely not as bad as the Cyber-dumpster

 

I agree, not having round headlights a huge missed opportunity. Otherwise I like the look of the rest of vehicle.

 

Those are nothing compared to this new Kia. This is ugly. I’m not even sure what’s going on with those bumper car fender flares.

 

What the fuck???


Edit: looks like a live rear axle, though, which is cool.

 

Yeah, I think were still at the development stage where all the youtubers are only able to offer “information-free” content. Looks like all the videos on the scout are the all about the jazz-hand thumbnails and their attemps at having personalities. Just like the videos for the 4th gen tacoma and 6th gen 4runner. Pretty obnoxious.

I had to watch it on mute and pick the internet for any bits of info, which isn’t much. I’m guessing the scout will be too expensive to be a viable alternative for when I can see myself getting another 4x4. My 4runner should hopefully be good for another 15 years

 

Looks like a Gladiator and an EV9 had a kid and it got the worst elements of both.

It's body-on-frame and I'm betting the Tasman is based on the outgoing Kia Mohave which I believe comes in both IRS and live rear axle. (We got it as the 2009 Borrego for car trivia buffs, they kept building it elsewhere in the world.)