2025 6th gen 4Runner Official Reveal Thread

Glad we can undo years of Toyota marketing efforts for you. Lmao

 

EPA regulations are there to improve air quality. Higher MPG = less total fuel burned by the entire auto fleet = less CO2, CO, NOx, soot particulates, etc pumped into the air. They do not care about saving people money, its not in their mandate. The automakers are adding the "save money" angle as marketing spin.

(and I say this as somebody who is pretty pro-environment and does see this as good to do in aggregate even if my own personal buying choices are not always decided for environmental reasons)


Having said all that I am really surprised so many of these high output turbo motors don't require premium, as in the ooooold days pre-electronics and knock sensors pretty much anything over 9:1 compression needed hi test. Many of these engines are running base compression levels over that and effective compression levels on turbo WAY over that. The ignition mapping and knock detection systems in these modern engines has come a very long way. Heck even the "lowly" 1GR would need hi test if it wasn't for computer controlled ignition and knock sensors.

 

BTW, all this discussion is really making me want to get a land cruiser someday....

 

Turbocharged engines typically require higher octane due to its ability to not knock at higher compression provided by turbo. This is not Toyota failing, this is how you safely design forced induction engine.

Some small engine turbo cars can be designed to run on regular, but doing so a) greatly limits max boost, b) significantly increases performance requirements on intercoolers, c) requires more complicated knock sensing and much earlier pulling timing.

 

Spoke with my dealer this evening, according to him they received an estimate from Toyota Corporate that the 25s will be hitting the US ports sometime in September with the non-hybrids, and while he didn’t receive definitive confirmation, it sounds like the hybrids sometime after the 1st of the year.

not sure how much weight can be put into these comments, but figured I’d pass the message along!

 

I thought when they launched it they said hybrids would be out at the same time as the non hybrid

 

That was my understanding as well, but their impression was that it’ll likely end up similar to the Tacoma but with a quicker turnaround.

 

That makes no sense as they already make the land cruiser...no reason to do it that way. I'll wait for a official announcement from Toyota before I believe rumors

 

I said the same thing as both the LC and Taco have the same T4 Hybrid. Either way, put down a deposit on an ORP

 

I won't even be able to afford a 4 runner in Canada, probably be 70k up here

 

Prices in general are out of control. I’m holding out for 6th gen, would like an ORP with the hybrid, but only if the price makes sense.

 

More delays, so the 2021 6th gen in now the 2025 6th gen, shocked I tell you, I'm completely shocked...

July 24 (Reuters) - Toyota Motor Corp:

* TOYOTA PUSHES BACK US LAUNCH OF POPULAR SUV ON SHORTAGE OF PARTS - BLOOMBERG NEWS

* TOYOTA NOW DOESN’T EXPECT TO BEGIN SHIPPING OF 4RUNNER SUV UNTIL DECEMBER OR EARLY NEXT YEAR- BLOOMBERG NEWS
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...pid=socialflow-twitter-business&sref=y3YMCJ4e

Toyota pushes back US launch of popular SUV on parts shortage
https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/c...k-us-launch-of-popular-suv-on-parts-shortage/

 

I wonder if it is really a parts shortage or if they are trying to straighten out some of the issues with the new Tacomas first since they share many parts.

 

Most likley more than just a parts issue. What are the new Tacoma teething problems?

 

Looks like my doom and gloom of an early 2025 release may have been justified... Hopefully this can get sorted soon (assuming it's legit)

 

The grille shutter is a big problem. Now there have been some transmission failures. Also some shock failures since they moved the bump stop to the shock.

 

I wonder if Toyota looked at the sales numbers for 5th Gen and decided not to mess with a good thing.

 

Definitely not, they've had sales numbers from the start and their operation end-to-end is likely too big to say "jk!" and pivot at the first sign of a delay. I heard 2024's have stopped being produced and I'd guess the other vehicles coming out of Tahara can probably pick up any slack.

 

they kinda did mess with a good thing
we’ll see how many ppl dig this new one
could argue the 5th gen popularity ever so slightly helps cushion their 6th gen delay pains

 

Every generation owner complains of ruining the new generation. It's all been downhill after the 1st gen 4R.

 

Complaints will be plentiful. Not just with styling differences. Engine recalls in Tacoma and Lexus models, axle recalls (in Tacoma's, might not affect 4Runners), and also the Tundra recalls aren't giving me a warm fuzzy. But, unless they pry my 4th and 5th gens from my grip, I won't need a MY 2026 of any vehicle. Couldn't afford one and dont want one anyway. Especially with the current QC issues of any manufacturers right now.
Imo, the globalists don't want production of long lasting vehicles for the general population. Also imo, Toyotas membership in the WEF is not good for us. But I guess we can all hope for plenty of lithium pools and electromagnetic fields on every corner in the future.

 

I would just wait for the 2030 model to come out....here are some spy photos!

 

Mustard Patina?

 

And yet each generation sells well. But I guess that remains to be seen with the new Taco, which isn't showing great sales numbers so far compared to previous 3rd gen.

 

Doug Demuro wrote some comment somewhere on Reddit around the time the 6th gen was unveiled about how he remembers when the 4th gen “wasn’t a real 4Runner” and when that treatment happened to the 5th as well when it was new.

 

Part of me wants to move to Australia and wait for 47 year waitlist to get the 70 series LC that are being sold there.

 

Depending on what you’re looking for, for the steep price of a brand new 70-series down under, why not:

find or commission something along the lines of a restored 2nd or 3rd gen?

Import/buy an imported a 25+ year old 70 series? You could try to bolt-on newer components too.

https://bringatrailer.com/toyota/land-cruiser-70-series/

 

This one is out west, but the Florida market has quite a few JDM trucks these days.
https://classifieds.race-dezert.com/FOR-SALE:1983-Toyota-Land-Cruiser-Diesel--211825

 

Buy one in the UAE and it will be LHD with the V6 1GR-FE!!

You can probably get it registered in Florida too.

Here: https://www.toyota.ae/en/new-cars/lc70-hardtop/

 

Just because people always complain the new generation is worse, doesn’t mean they aren’t right. People are complaining about the things lost to history. This is the time to reflect on what it was, and what will be no more.

We should grieve what has successively been lost over the generations: Front solid axles, small/nimble size, good interior packaging, multimode 4wd in SR5 trims, a big honkin V8option, and the reliability granted by having the same basic engine design for 20 years. Oh, and real bump stops.

Soon, people will find it too painful to remember and the 6th gen will become the new darling. The youts, having never known what was, will look at the old guard and wonder why they don’t like change.

When the 7th gen comes, the same youts will complain it’s not a real 4runner because it’s now the full width of an interstate lane, it’s has rear independent suspension, 22in wheels are stock on the base model, bench seats in the back are replaced by standard 4ft wide captain’s chairs that don’t fold, and it weighs 12,000lbs.