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Shock Upgrade that doesn’t add lift?

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010-2024)' started by Starkhaus, Aug 10, 2024.

  1. Aug 10, 2024 at 9:50 PM
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    Starkhaus

    Starkhaus [OP] New Member

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    Looking to get a Westcott Precollar lift done for the 3 inches. Want to also direct replace the stock shocks with some upgraded ones but don’t want any more increased lift from the shocks.

    Should any of the usuals like Fox, Bilstein, Dobs, all work?
     
  2. Aug 10, 2024 at 10:54 PM
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    PVT Pablo

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    One of us doesn't understand the logic here...

    I must be confused, if you're upgrading the suspension anyway, why limit yourself to a spacer lift?
     
  3. Aug 10, 2024 at 10:56 PM
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    If I’m being dumb let me know. Basically just want an upgraded shock that doesn’t add any lift from the shock

    edit: saw your edit, maybe a more cost effective route? Unless that isn’t worth it at all
     
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  4. Aug 10, 2024 at 11:06 PM
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    So I don't have any specific knowledge on the Westcott lift, but my understanding how it works is that it replaces spring perches to increase preload, thus making lift. Preload is bad as it shortens your coilover travel. The reason people typically do preload is because it's cheap. You can throw some preload spacers on some coilovers and get easy and inexpensive lift.

    I don't usually see people buy whole new coilovers just to add spacers to them. I have in some circumstances seen OEM coils with aftermarket shocks and spacers, but that was again due to cost.

    A better bet is to just buy an appropriately length coilover that doesn't use spacers or preload to achieve lift. It's going to ride better, and have more articulation.

    Someone correct me if I'm wrong and unbeknownst to me these Westcott spacers are something else.

    Also I see you mentioned not adding lift, but you want three inches of lift from a spacer?
     
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  5. Aug 10, 2024 at 11:15 PM
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    Good insight. The whole notion behind shock not adding lift is because wouldn’t want even more added onto what the westcott already adds. Sounds like it’s a one or the other kinda deal
     
  6. Aug 10, 2024 at 11:21 PM
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    Definitely. Like you said it's one or the other. A coilover however, designed to make three inches of lift will always be better than an OEM length coilover with a spacer.
     
  7. Aug 11, 2024 at 6:50 AM
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    glwood54

    glwood54 Stop making me buy stuff!

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    No shocks add lift. Lift is attained by either spacers or coils. Then shocks are added for the appropriate amount of lift.

    3" of lift via spacers is highly discouraged.
     
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    nimby

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    Do you need exactly 3" of lift?

    if 2.5" is sufficient, you should just get these front shocks instead of putting Wescott spacers on top of something else:

    https://eibach.com/product/E60-82-071-02-10?epsid=2000

    The lower spring perch is adjustable up and down so your truck is lifted that way. The higher the spring perch, the higher the lift (up to 2.5"). Just use your stock front coils. Add a 1.5" Cornfed spacer to your rear coils or a rear coil that's 1.5" taller than stock.
     
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  9. Aug 11, 2024 at 7:28 AM
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    Not sure why anyone would want 3" anyway. Wouldn't it really start to affect suspension geometry and maybe even start getting into long-travel territory?
     
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  10. Aug 11, 2024 at 7:38 AM
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    nimby

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    It definitely affects suspension geometry in a negative way. You drastically reduce down travel.

    Long travel is only achieved with longer aftermarket UCA's, LCA's, and shocks.
     
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