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Tacoma TRD Pro Cost $65,395

Discussion in '6th Gen 4Runners (2025+)' started by 4R777, Apr 23, 2024.

  1. Apr 29, 2024 at 9:35 AM
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    NoDak

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    lol each person is different. i personally dont feel i need to work for my vehicle. if that was the case, i would have bought a manual. also on trips, trying to plan a pass 10-15 sec in the future in a busy city interstate is not what i call stress free driving.

    ive gotten use to the 4R limitations, but it still doesnt help it needs help in this day and age with that 5th gen trans. and most people will agree, when you constantly have to mash the pedal to get that thing to merge or anything (especially in big city driving) its tiresome.

    i am lucky since i live in ND and the worst traffic i get is driving to work/home on a divided 4 lane at 70 mph (2 lanes each side). city wise, the highest mph is 40 since we only have like 7 miles one end of town to the other (longest distance)

    when i visit ATL or other big cities, its a chore at times to get to traffic flow
     
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  2. Apr 29, 2024 at 11:53 AM
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    true. but our town elevation is stupid. 70-80% of the town is NOT flat. so majority of your time is trying to go up an incline during winter at stop lights/signs which means iced over intersections due to exhausts dripping water onto the ground and freezing.

    fwd/awd will get you going but a center lock diff helps a lot from a stand still.

    the center of town is in a valley going east/west about a mile wide, then its uphill (north/south) on either side for about 2-3 miles from the center of the valley.

    funny photo during one winter, you get the gist of the idea and this road goes up for about 1/3 mile. there is a stoplight at the bottom of the hill and then another stoplight about 500 ft up the hill from that light. makes for interesting navigating during winter trying to get momentum going up. and its like this all over town to varying degree's

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  3. Apr 29, 2024 at 12:05 PM
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    You need the locker for ice an snow? The center on the full time 4WD versions is already a Torsen limited slip + in 4H you traction control that will try to slow the spinning wheels. If that's not enough to get you going on paved roads maybe time to wait for the plows to go by....

    My wife's car is a Honda Pilot and I have a set of Michelin Cross climates on it. Other than driving though a foot of unplowed powder it basically will drive circles around my part time 4WD 4Runner in winter street driving...
     
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  4. Apr 29, 2024 at 12:06 PM
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    i am talking about iced intersections where you have to start from a stopped light/sign and its iced under your wheels.

    you will be surprised how many awd (and some never even get 10ft during a green light) and even 4wd trucks just slowly move from a stop intersection and its iced.

    you have to take into account they are trying to go up and incline on top of this.
     
  5. Apr 29, 2024 at 12:49 PM
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    Nah, I would not be surprised at all. People think bald all seasons are fine because they have AWD. See it around here all the time. Most common vehicle you see in a ditch in a snowstorm is a 4wd truck or Jeep.

    In the end, the two most important things are tires and driver. I know I can get where I am going in my 4runner and it only has part time 4wd...but I'd take a Subaru with snow tires over my 4Runner in ice.
     
  6. Apr 29, 2024 at 1:11 PM
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    FWD? That’ll get someone to believe 4WD/AWD is underrated, and get stuck in snow. But to each their own.

    I’ve gotten stuck with FWD and it’s not fun.
     
  7. Apr 29, 2024 at 1:20 PM
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    $42K for a SR5 seems like an ok price.
     
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  8. Apr 29, 2024 at 1:29 PM
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    I’d take front wheel drive with snow tires over 4WD with crap tires any day.
     
  9. Apr 29, 2024 at 2:02 PM
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    yeah reason i start looking for replacements at 1/4 tread life. but ND winters pretty much dictate true tire lifespan due to traction, not longevity.

    yeah i remember that happening to me. had a mazda protege and got sucked into a field during spring slush season. also had a hyundai sonata that i couldnt get up the drive way with the ice and the incline of the driveway

    i dont use snow tires in the winter up here. just 30+ years of driving in the winters up here have given me a lot of experience to navigate w/o them (i first learn to drive in winters up here in ND with a rwd cressida for a few years, that was fun, not). if its to the point i need them, i just turn around and go back home and take a pto day (i have the luxury of being USAF civil service so i have plety of pto i earn each year).

    plus getting good tires with decent tread depth and making sure i dont neglect them make for easy travels to/from work.

    drive to the tires and road condition. right now my tires are not ideal so i drive way more conservative vs the tires i had on before. but had to get rid of them since they became dangerous with only about 1/4 tread left. (i took the old 2018 tundra oem tires and put them on the 4runner last summer, we swapped the 2018 tundra oem for duratracs after about 500 miles)
     
  10. Apr 29, 2024 at 5:06 PM
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    Purely anecdotal and has no objective merits as to the decision making on AWD/4WD and ice and snow driving. One must be willing to make quite a few compromises to want to go FWD, and that’s been the premise of FWD in its entire existence. So the presence of snow tires doesn’t really teach us anything new.
     
  11. Apr 29, 2024 at 5:09 PM
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    2016Pro Why all of the Pro hate?

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    The limited is a grocery getting model way different than a pro or th
     
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  12. Apr 29, 2024 at 5:19 PM
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    A bit of an overstatement there. A very capable grocery getter.
     
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  13. Apr 29, 2024 at 5:29 PM
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    Yep, while the angles on the Limited aren't favorable by our standards, the clearance and angles are still superior to the modern CUV - even those that punch above their weight.

    And that's before we get to the benefits of the torsen center and low range.
     
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  14. May 1, 2024 at 10:57 AM
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  16. May 2, 2024 at 5:45 AM
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    One-at-this-price stripper. Bought new 34 yrs ago, a $13K leftover. Added Detroit TruTrac, 1”rear spring spacer and “pinstripes”… Factory AC kit and roof rack bought at dealer cost at time of purchase, still blows ice cold 32yrs later. 2022 AG ORP all stock.
    $20k more than my pretty well outfitted 5th gen ORP, PLUS an additional $1,500 in sales tax. It adds up to $21,500 more but admittedly for more truck, but questionable $/value for myself.
    I like the colors and the design of the front facia and the rear powered hatch….but everything In between..meh.
    I am disappointed that it grew larger, I would’ve preferred the same size of the 5th gen.
     
  17. May 2, 2024 at 6:00 AM
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    dont worry toyota will make a killing on the number of females buying limited/platinums to pay for you folks buying every other trim :)

    i will be guessing the bulk of sales will be limited/plats, just like it is now.

    i see more limited's now than i do any other trim
     
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    I wonder whatI’m looking at for a TRDORP. Hopefully not too high, I can score a 2024 for 49 rn, but I’m holding out to see what the 25 gets priced as tbh.
     
  19. May 2, 2024 at 6:21 AM
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    well right now a 24 limited is ~ 55k decently optioned. 52k base 4x4. and the markup for the new config is probably going to be at minimum 5k (3700 just for the hybrid option if you go by the tacoma markup from non hv to hv).

    i am hoping for a 25 platinum around 60-62k msrp and then about 5% discount i usually get when i buy one thru allocation reserve request.
     
  20. May 2, 2024 at 9:11 AM
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    Yes! Perfect for soccer drop offs and grocery runs
     
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  21. May 2, 2024 at 9:15 AM
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    If you configure a Tacoma TRD ORP, you end up with about a $55k truck. With that in mind, the 2025 4Runner will about $10k more than the 2024. Personally, I don't see the value in that price jump, but others might.
     
  22. May 2, 2024 at 12:46 PM
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    The Tacoma TRD off-road with the highest premium package is $58K before any dealer markups or add ons. The 4Runner has got to be at least $5K more than that. A $63K off-road premium 4Runner. That’s insane. Then you can add a few thousand more to make it a hybrid. Absolute insanity.
    Mine had an MSRP just over $40K and paid a little over $37K for it. That’s quite the increase in price.
     
  23. May 2, 2024 at 2:20 PM
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    Haha. I thought the one thing we could probably all agree on without controversy would be the fact that the 5th Gen 4Runners are dogs when it comes to power/acceleration. I could care less about racing from stoplight to stoplight and wouldn’t buy a BOF SUV if my first priority was to have extraordinary acceleration (though a G-Wagon could scratch that itch within a BOF). Therefore the lack of power or speed building didn’t drive me mad and I definitely tolerated it because I got a DEAD ASS RELIBALE car with insane resale value that just got me from point A to point B in all conditions, and that was an acceptable tradeoff to me, but I feel like most objective people would say that in the power/acceleration department, the 5th Gen 4Runner
    I have honestly read a lot more of “no way I’m gonna pay that much” on this forum than I would have imagined. I feel like the avg American consumer doesn’t really care what something costs and if they can responsibly afford it. The difference between being able to buy it and being able to afford it is a distinction most people conflate. I know many people who spend an inordinate amount on a car and then say “that’s just how much all cars cost now” and they never considered buying a used car, or cheaper model, etc.
     
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    A 10 year car loan is insane. I don’t know if that many people will be willing to buy a $60K+ 4Runner.
     
  25. May 2, 2024 at 6:40 PM
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    I haven't bought a new vehicle in a long time, but holy shit that is a long time to pay off a vehicle.
     
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    I’m 14th in line for a TRDORP, however if I’m looking at $65k+, I’d just hold out for a GX550 or mid trim LC250 at that point. I actually texted my sales rep and asked to put me down for an SR5 4x4. It’s a compromise, and I could afford the ORP, but I can’t justify it.
     
  27. May 3, 2024 at 8:24 AM
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    Scout / International the grandfather to your modern 4x4's.
     
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    I see far more women driving TRD Pro 4Runners than men. I see far more men driving Limited models than any other model other than SR5. This is Austin, TX. But most importantly is that if a woman is driving a 4Runner, it’s mostly a Pro. And if you see a Pro, is more likely a woman.
     
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  29. May 3, 2024 at 3:45 PM
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    Dam I' m on a 48 month Toyota loan & will most likely pay this off in the very near future!! My house built in 2000 has been paid off for at least 10 yrs. The only loan I have is the 4Runner. I ain't giving %%% to some banker! All my other "Toys" as my bride calls them are paid for . Looking to sell or trade my 2014 HD Dyna Super Glide Custom 103 cu. for a 2024 Honda CBR 1000RR & that will be bought ought right too.
     
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    Everyone has different circumstances and not everyone can say the same thing about a paid off house. But paying $65k for a 4Runner and justifying it via a 10 year loan is just plain stupid regardless of income level or other life accomplishments.

    My 23 ORP has been paid off, and I don’t mind getting into another sensible loan. But anything above the traditional 60 month is questionable, especially at high interest rates and with these ridiculous car prices.
     
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