1. Welcome to 4Runners.com!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all 4Runner discussion topics
    • Transfer over your build thread from a different forum to this one
    • Communicate privately with other 4Runner owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

6th Gen Fail - Hybrid for Overlanding

Discussion in '6th Gen 4Runners (2025+)' started by CarlosClasson, Apr 25, 2024.

  1. Apr 26, 2024 at 12:25 PM
    #61
    Spare Parts

    Spare Parts New Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2020
    Member:
    #14274
    Messages:
    2,873
    Gender:
    Male
    Southern Maine
    Vehicle:
    22 LR ORP
    Sherpa Crestone. 4X Innovations Sliders
    Beautiful, that’s what I’m talking about. In 2020, we went cross country and back, one of the hi lights was camping in the desert.
     
  2. Apr 26, 2024 at 12:44 PM
    #62
    Rob41

    Rob41 Veteran

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2023
    Member:
    #33566
    Messages:
    944
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Rob
    Northern Michigan
    Vehicle:
    2023 Supercharged 4Runner TRD
    Magnuson Supercharger, CSF Performance Radiator, Eibach Pro-Truck Series 2R suspension, SCS Ray10 Bronze Wheels, Pedal Monster, TRD Pro Grill, TRD Pro Roof Rack
    No part of me has ever wanted to use a roof top tent. I use a camper and/or the 4Runner. Not sure about overlanding, but I've always gone camping/exploring and seek out the trails less traveled in Northern Michigan and Canada. It's not about how big of a boulder I can climb but getting to places that almost nobody goes.
     
    2Toys, COTacoPro and Thatbassguy like this.
  3. Apr 26, 2024 at 1:13 PM
    #63
    Yotaholic

    Yotaholic New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2023
    Member:
    #31655
    Messages:
    3,479
    Olympia, WA
    At least one trim in the 6th 4R should have received the 3.4 turbo
     
    gomiami likes this.
  4. Apr 26, 2024 at 1:34 PM
    #64
    Thatbassguy

    Thatbassguy New member? Really??

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2019
    Member:
    #9314
    Messages:
    13,829
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    James
    S/E Wisconsin
    Vehicle:
    2019 TRDORP, KDSS, MGM
    RSG sliders, Yakima offgrid basket, Pro-Comp wheels, SOS Streamline bumper and skids, Warn VR EVO10S winch + Ultimate Sidewinder, Bilstein 6112 + 5100 + rear lift coils, Rigid Dually SS ditch lights w/Caliraised brackets and OEM style dash switch
    It definitely would have been cool. But, Toyota would be competing with themselves then by putting the same motor in the 4Runner that the GX gets. Plus, who knows how that would fit in with their CAFE standards.
     
    BC Hunter likes this.
  5. Apr 26, 2024 at 1:47 PM
    #65
    Yotaholic

    Yotaholic New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2023
    Member:
    #31655
    Messages:
    3,479
    Olympia, WA
    4th gen shared a motor with Lexus if I recall correctly. And Lexus was still selling. A common motor with Lexus is not going to hurt Lexus, Lexus is a different animal
     
    gomiami and Trident904 like this.
  6. Apr 26, 2024 at 1:56 PM
    #66
    Yotaholic

    Yotaholic New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2023
    Member:
    #31655
    Messages:
    3,479
    Olympia, WA
    Has anybody test driven the 200 series Land Cruiser and the LX570? I have. And the Lexus was quieter and more comfortable. Lexus are built different, they are nicer. I was interested in buying the LX but the deal just didn't go through. This was before Covid.
     
  7. Apr 26, 2024 at 2:34 PM
    #67
    Trident904

    Trident904 That Guy

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2019
    Member:
    #9589
    Messages:
    618
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Brian
    Treasure Coast, FL
    Vehicle:
    22 TRD Offroad Premium on 35’s
    King 2.5 with resis, C4 Hybrid Front, TC Uppers, Victory Rack, Smitty 12k winch, 17x9 -38 SCS F5’s with 295/70 Ridge Graps
    100% Lexus is a different animal. The interior quality and comfort is light years beyond anything Toyota offers.
     
  8. Apr 26, 2024 at 2:59 PM
    #68
    Photon_Chaser

    Photon_Chaser 48576 and counting…

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2023
    Member:
    #35473
    Messages:
    589
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Roger
    Sierra Nevada Mountains
    Vehicle:
    21 TRD Pro - "Photon"
    and some folks go a little overboard even with a 4Runner!
    upload_2024-4-26_14-58-24.png
     
  9. Apr 26, 2024 at 3:04 PM
    #69
    Rob41

    Rob41 Veteran

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2023
    Member:
    #33566
    Messages:
    944
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Rob
    Northern Michigan
    Vehicle:
    2023 Supercharged 4Runner TRD
    Magnuson Supercharger, CSF Performance Radiator, Eibach Pro-Truck Series 2R suspension, SCS Ray10 Bronze Wheels, Pedal Monster, TRD Pro Grill, TRD Pro Roof Rack
    Lol, that's what "overland" rigs look like to me with all the obligatory gear mounted everywhere.
     
  10. Apr 26, 2024 at 3:24 PM
    #70
    jharkin

    jharkin New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2022
    Member:
    #29803
    Messages:
    656
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jeremy
    Boston suburbs
    Vehicle:
    2023 Black Pro
    Ahhhhhh! I see my mistake… I thought you guys said camping, not glamping. :laugh:
     
  11. Apr 26, 2024 at 3:41 PM
    #71
    Yotaholic

    Yotaholic New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2023
    Member:
    #31655
    Messages:
    3,479
    Olympia, WA
    The 2.4 iForceMax produces identical torque to the 3.4 in the GX but it just doesn't have the power to sell. People love V6s and V8s.
     
    gomiami likes this.
  12. Apr 26, 2024 at 3:48 PM
    #72
    Yotaholic

    Yotaholic New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2023
    Member:
    #31655
    Messages:
    3,479
    Olympia, WA
    I honestly admire one thing about the 6th. 465 ft lb of torque is A LOT. Not sure if even Bronco CRaptor has that or the 392 Wrangler. If you buy it, save some money every month for the day when the battery craps out. Or baby the hybrid system, drive it a mile or two daily, don't park the stupid thing for 6 months.
     
  13. Apr 26, 2024 at 4:16 PM
    #73
    ColoradoTJ

    ColoradoTJ I drink...and I know things. Staff Member

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2024
    Member:
    #39793
    Messages:
    183
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Chris
    When I get home...I'll pull them out. Denver traffic is ass. Now it's Pho time.
     
  14. Apr 26, 2024 at 5:20 PM
    #74
    Yotaholic

    Yotaholic New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2023
    Member:
    #31655
    Messages:
    3,479
    Olympia, WA
    No coincidence that the new GX can tow more than the new Land Cruiser. And honestly, I would be more confident towing 9,000 lbs with the old 5.7L Land Cruiser.
     
    gomiami likes this.
  15. Apr 26, 2024 at 5:43 PM
    #75
    Spare Parts

    Spare Parts New Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2020
    Member:
    #14274
    Messages:
    2,873
    Gender:
    Male
    Southern Maine
    Vehicle:
    22 LR ORP
    Sherpa Crestone. 4X Innovations Sliders
    So your saying I won’t be able to find those fuel storage containers locally.

    I was also wonder if they had an aftermarket roof rack.
     
    Last edited: Apr 26, 2024
    BC Hunter and gomiami like this.
  16. Apr 26, 2024 at 6:04 PM
    #76
    ColoradoTJ

    ColoradoTJ I drink...and I know things. Staff Member

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2024
    Member:
    #39793
    Messages:
    183
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Chris

    The wife and I were laughing so hard on the way back. She said "better get a look at these speed bags bouncing around. After these shocks go on....so is the bouncing."

    IMG_4202.jpg

    I'll find a place to test all three sets out...


    IMG_4111.jpg
     
  17. Apr 26, 2024 at 6:31 PM
    #77
    garoto

    garoto New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2023
    Member:
    #34878
    Messages:
    581
    Link!!!
     
  18. Apr 26, 2024 at 6:54 PM
    #78
    ColoradoTJ

    ColoradoTJ I drink...and I know things. Staff Member

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2024
    Member:
    #39793
    Messages:
    183
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Chris


    FJ. Seen this one coming. Those brakes will get you every time.



    Couldn't find the white runner that rolled. Weird
     
  19. Apr 26, 2024 at 7:08 PM
    #79
    ColoradoTJ

    ColoradoTJ I drink...and I know things. Staff Member

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2024
    Member:
    #39793
    Messages:
    183
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Chris
    Holy Crap!! Totally missed that and I was looking in that general area.......ish
     
    Yotaholic and gomiami like this.
  20. Apr 26, 2024 at 9:28 PM
    #80
    Thatbassguy

    Thatbassguy New member? Really??

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2019
    Member:
    #9314
    Messages:
    13,829
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    James
    S/E Wisconsin
    Vehicle:
    2019 TRDORP, KDSS, MGM
    RSG sliders, Yakima offgrid basket, Pro-Comp wheels, SOS Streamline bumper and skids, Warn VR EVO10S winch + Ultimate Sidewinder, Bilstein 6112 + 5100 + rear lift coils, Rigid Dually SS ditch lights w/Caliraised brackets and OEM style dash switch
    What would the purpose be? To sell a few extra units to idiots who can't comprehend anything beyond engine displacement?

    People are going to buy them either way. Why would Toyota bother with multiple engine options? They would only lose money on it.
     
    gomiami likes this.
  21. Apr 26, 2024 at 9:49 PM
    #81
    Thatbassguy

    Thatbassguy New member? Really??

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2019
    Member:
    #9314
    Messages:
    13,829
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    James
    S/E Wisconsin
    Vehicle:
    2019 TRDORP, KDSS, MGM
    RSG sliders, Yakima offgrid basket, Pro-Comp wheels, SOS Streamline bumper and skids, Warn VR EVO10S winch + Ultimate Sidewinder, Bilstein 6112 + 5100 + rear lift coils, Rigid Dually SS ditch lights w/Caliraised brackets and OEM style dash switch
    So, instead of an efficient 2.4 turbo that makes more power than almost every 4Runner engine to date, they should put in a detuned turbo V6 that would certainly get worse fuel economy? Makes sense
     
  22. Apr 27, 2024 at 12:58 AM
    #82
    Yotaholic

    Yotaholic New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2023
    Member:
    #31655
    Messages:
    3,479
    Olympia, WA
    Why to detune? Just give 4Runner a GX motor like in the 4th gen, for people who want to tow more. 4th gen V8 4Runner towed more.
     
    Last edited: Apr 27, 2024
  23. Apr 27, 2024 at 1:00 AM
    #83
    Yotaholic

    Yotaholic New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2023
    Member:
    #31655
    Messages:
    3,479
    Olympia, WA
    You always take a chance when you lift a wheel.
     
    ColoradoTJ[QUOTED] likes this.
  24. Apr 27, 2024 at 1:18 AM
    #84
    ColoradoTJ

    ColoradoTJ I drink...and I know things. Staff Member

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2024
    Member:
    #39793
    Messages:
    183
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Chris
    Absolutely. Those brakes though....
     
    Yotaholic[QUOTED] likes this.
  25. Apr 27, 2024 at 1:21 AM
    #85
    Yotaholic

    Yotaholic New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2023
    Member:
    #31655
    Messages:
    3,479
    Olympia, WA
    Downhill, lift a wheel and then slam the brakes, you are asking for trouble. The driver should have kept going with the flow, it wasn't such a crazy trail. It was 100% driver stupidity.
     
    ColoradoTJ[QUOTED] likes this.
  26. Apr 27, 2024 at 1:35 AM
    #86
    ColoradoTJ

    ColoradoTJ I drink...and I know things. Staff Member

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2024
    Member:
    #39793
    Messages:
    183
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Chris
    Agreed 100%

    Sometimes a good whiskey throttle saves the day. When I go down very steep obstacles I'm usually in front wheel drive only to keep that ass down.
     
    Yotaholic[QUOTED] likes this.
  27. Apr 27, 2024 at 2:35 AM
    #87
    jwctaco

    jwctaco Retired

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2024
    Member:
    #39916
    Messages:
    370
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jim
    S.W. Michigan
    Vehicle:
    23’ T4R
    IMG_0702.jpg I love seeing everyone getting all spun up on a new model release, but nobody’s personally sat in the seat and driven one. I had a shit fit years ago about airbags and all the nanny crap, love it now. Walked away from this without a scratch. Other driver lost control on ice and hit me head on, totaling the truck.
     
    ColoradoTJ likes this.
  28. Apr 27, 2024 at 3:38 AM
    #88
    Thatbassguy

    Thatbassguy New member? Really??

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2019
    Member:
    #9314
    Messages:
    13,829
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    James
    S/E Wisconsin
    Vehicle:
    2019 TRDORP, KDSS, MGM
    RSG sliders, Yakima offgrid basket, Pro-Comp wheels, SOS Streamline bumper and skids, Warn VR EVO10S winch + Ultimate Sidewinder, Bilstein 6112 + 5100 + rear lift coils, Rigid Dually SS ditch lights w/Caliraised brackets and OEM style dash switch
    I wouldn't call it high strung. It makes pretty modest power for a turbo 4.

    And, for the millionth time, it has way more torque than the outgoing V6.
     
    2016Pro, icebear and gomiami like this.
  29. Apr 27, 2024 at 4:18 AM
    #89
    jharkin

    jharkin New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2022
    Member:
    #29803
    Messages:
    656
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jeremy
    Boston suburbs
    Vehicle:
    2023 Black Pro
    Half the guys on this forum don’t understand anything beyond displacement… you expect the general public to?? :p
     
    icebear and Thatbassguy[QUOTED] like this.
  30. Apr 27, 2024 at 4:21 AM
    #90
    BlueBabySound

    BlueBabySound New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2024
    Member:
    #40007
    Messages:
    16
    Gender:
    Male
    The 6G is what brought me to this forum. The wife is looking to replace a Kona with something to do mild-moderate trails and gets decent MPG getting there. She currently uses a Jeep, but a 2 door Jeep doesn't fit our stuff AND our dog. And the dog is none too happy about it!

    The 6G floor doesn't bother me, and the built in battery should be nice. Looking at the Trailhunter and I like the built in compressor too (currently use ARB twin). But there's no way I'm taking a 6G through the Ozark National Forest, or similar places, where the clear coat would be gone after the first ride, or getting half way up the doors in water. We'll use one of the Jeeps for that.

    The Trailhunter will likely stay unmolested with the exception of a winch and bumpers. Her current Jeep was a 30k Jeep with 30k in mods, don't want to go that route again.


    Pics of the wife's Jeep and her camping pack.

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     

Products Discussed in

To Top