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best Suspension's for 2022 4R TRD ORP

Discussion in 'New Member Introductions' started by 22-TRD-ORP, Mar 25, 2024.

  1. Mar 25, 2024 at 5:52 PM
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    22-TRD-ORP

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    Hey everyone, I just got my 4 Runner two months ago. I have added a Prinsu roof rack, Prinsu ladder, and just added some Falken WildPeak's AT/4s.

    The 4 Runner has gotten really heavy, and just needed some suggestions of what is best to add. Suspensions, tuning, or what else... I am kinda stuck at this moment and trying to figure out what is best without me taking out the roof rack.

    Thank you,
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  2. Mar 25, 2024 at 6:44 PM
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    Congrats on your new 4Runner! Probably need some idea of your budget in order to help spend your lunch money, ha! Welcome to the forum Andrew.
     
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  3. Mar 25, 2024 at 7:59 PM
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    Thanks bro! Glad to be here!

    My budget is around $8,000 for this year.

    I am now down to $6,500.

    So I got some room to spend but just don't know what else can go with my ORP. An not feel like I am carrying such a heavy load while driving.
     
  4. Mar 25, 2024 at 8:52 PM
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  5. Mar 25, 2024 at 8:56 PM
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    Thanks bro, glad to be here!
    I'm digging your car bro any mods on it?
     
  6. Mar 26, 2024 at 2:22 AM
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  7. Mar 26, 2024 at 3:02 AM
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    What do you plan to do with it/where do you plan to go. There are a few options but. Need a little more info on use
     
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  8. Mar 26, 2024 at 6:36 AM
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    Front Bumper: C4 Fabrication Low-Profile Bumper Warn Evo10-S Winch w/ Warn wireless adapter Extreme LED dual color light bar w/ Cali raised LED OEM style switch Bumper Cover Trimmed For Clearance Rear Bumper: 80% Off Road Rear Bash Bar (Limited rear bumper version) Armor: RCI Skid plate package C4 Gas tank skid RCI Rear diff skid RCI Shock Skids RSG Angled/ Plated Sliders Total Chaos Cam Tab Gussets Total Chaos Spindle Gussets 41.22 Hitch Slider Suspension: Dobinsons IMS long travel shocks: (Front: IMS59-50574 w/ C59-352 Springs) (Rear: IMS59-50575 w/ C59-675v Springs) Apex Chassis Tie Rod Assemblies (KIT410) Apache Off Road UCAs Apache Off Road HD Rear Links (Upper and Lower) Apache Off Road Rear Sway Bar Links Dobinsons Track Bar Front Sway Bar Deleted DuroBumps Rear Bump stops PerryParts Front Bump stops DRKDSS Track Bar Correction kit Dobinsons Diff Drop Wheels/ Tires: RRW 17x8.5 -12 RR6-H Wheels 285/75/17 Falken A/T4W 1.25" SpiderTrax Spacers BMC, Pinch Weld Folded. C4 High Clearance Fender Liners Performance: OTT Tuned Scan Gauge II for Temp Monitoring Yota Shop Diff Breather Storage Solutions: Sherpa Crestone Sport roof rack Aiden James Customs Gear Plate w/ Slide Out Tables *Backordered. Rado Designs Molle storage panels and top shelf Glove Box organizer Center Console organizer Interior: Diode Dynamics LED Interior lighting (Warm white ftw) Meso Customs Hatch lights Meso Customs Door Handle Covers Ram ball mount for Garmin In-Touch Mini II FitCamX Dash Camera Scosche phone mount Weathertech floor matts Misc: Nano Ceramic Tint (Including windshield and sunroof) Midland MXT575 and Ghost Antenna Cali Raised LED 27W Ditch Lights w/ oem style switch OVS Nomadic 6.5' Awning AVS Low Profile Vent Visors AVS Bugflector II Diode Dynamics puddle lights LasFit Reverse lights LED license plate lights Ark Splash Guards Ark Mud Flap Deletes (cut for rear bumper/ bash bar) AJT Push-To-Start Button +Midland handheld GMRS radios, Baofeng UV-5R Ham radio, recovery gear, water purification system, lifeboat food rations, trauma kit, fire extinguisher and fire starting kit stay on board.
    Welcome!

    How much the the rack and ladder weigh? I imagine the stock springs handle them just fine.
    Suspension won't help with the added rotational/ unsprung weight of the tires for obvious reasons.

    For context:
    What are you planning to use the rig for? Lift height desired? Okay with a firm ride, or do you prefer a softer feel?
     
  9. Mar 26, 2024 at 2:39 PM
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    I wanna go to the mountains, off-roading, sand, rocks, mud, water floods anything mostly. I want to go anywhere with it, and plus it is my daily for right now at the moment. Something both off-roading and something for the daily.
     
  10. Mar 26, 2024 at 2:42 PM
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    Off-roading but it is also my daily truck. I would like go to 2inches on front and back end. Ill take firm out of anything.
    The ladder and rack weigh together for about 60 lbs
     
  11. Mar 26, 2024 at 2:44 PM
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    Are you planning to add more weight? Bumpers/ winches/ drawers etc?
     
  12. Mar 26, 2024 at 2:50 PM
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    Yes, I do plan on putting more weight .
    I do want to add the front bumper w/ winches and back bumper as well.
    I am also trying to get a camper on top of my rack.
    what do you think is best for suspension to hold all of that?
    I have been looking into some Blistens or some Fox 4.0s with full lift kit.... I just need a veteran(4Runenr) to tell me whats the best for my buck and good my truck.
     
  13. Mar 26, 2024 at 3:01 PM
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    Lots of options out there.

    Before adding suspension I would add some weight first and see how it feels. If you do suspension now and add weight later you'll be doing springs again... Been there.

    Just make sure to do plenty of research before buying suspension. I went OME and it handles weight really well. But the lack of suspension travel is proving to be a problem for serious trails.
    Swapping to Dobinson IMS long travel now.

    Many people here will recommend bilstein as they have great adjustability and are pretty affordable. Finding the right spring/ shock combination for your target weight is key.
     
  14. Mar 26, 2024 at 3:20 PM
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    Dobinson IMS Long travel, i am going to do some research on that. Never heard of them hmm..
    Why I needed someone to elaborate on these kind of things so thank you.
    Ill start doing some research on springs and shocks of what I am going to need.

    How much does the front/w winches weigh for what you have? What brand did you choose?
     
  15. Mar 26, 2024 at 3:32 PM
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    I have a c4 low profile bumper and warn 10s winch. The combination weights about 150 pounds. I PM'd you some basic info on OME if you decide to go that route.

    Once you get an idea of how much weight you'll be adding contact @Crikeymike
    That guy is a wizard and helped educate me on some options out there. If he helps you out make sure to order through Exitoffroad.com. Great service and fast shipping. Can't recommend it enough.
     
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    Probably the best "budget friendly" suspension lift is the bilstein 6112/5160. Search it on Google and see if its for you. But theres a ton of other options. Fox and kings are awesome but both require valve tuning to be 100% setup for your 4runner, look on accutunes website(they are on this form as well)

    A tune is a great way to help with the added weight and oversized tires without spending a ton of money. Yorawerx and ott. The both have threads on here to help you decided which one is for you.

    Good luck
     
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    Okay awesome bro, i'll check the PM!
     
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    Hey whats going on chief, what do you by they "both require 100% valve tuning setup". I thought was supposed to only bring the RPM or save gas... Am i completely wrong on what tuning is?
     
  19. Mar 26, 2024 at 5:48 PM
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    I was talking about 2 different things. The SUSPENSION valve tuning with high end shocks like fox and kings

    Then about "performance" tuning.

    Sorry I confused you
     
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    King and Fox can be valved and tuned to all the extra weight you add (so it's not eating up travel/too soft), but you also valve and tune in addition to that for the type of driving/offroading you do. High speed desert, low speed rock crawling, some of both, etc. This is the benefit of the better shocks and working with a place like Accutune Offroad. There are formulas and algorithms they work with to get the absolute best performance out of your shocks for a given setup and driving style. Make sense?
     
  21. Mar 27, 2024 at 9:26 PM
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    No no don’t apologize boss, I had to do some research on that actually
    I had no idea what it was! so thank you for clarifying chief!
     
  22. Mar 27, 2024 at 9:27 PM
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    Yah that makes a lot more sense, so basically it all depends on what terrain I’m going to be doing a lot
    An it has to follow that algorithm, Am I correct on that?
     
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    Be aware that Some shocks will need to be removed and rebuilt after so long. This may mean having the vehicle down for a few days while the shocks get rebuilt. I don’t know a lot about this process, I just know it’s a concern I have when I replace my suspension.
     
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    Anything with a nitrogen charge port needs to be serviced on a regular basis so king icon ect. Sealed shocks like Bilstein or OME are not serviceable.
     
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    Do the unserviceable ones last longer than the service interval for the others?
     
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    They will last longer then the service interval but you give up a lot of performance in the shock body and the ability to get it set for your rig trails and driving style
     
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    The algorithm a place like Accutune has accounts for things like overall vehicle weight with add-ons (bumpers, armor, etc) tire/wheel size and terrain. It then provides the optimal valving and flutter disc stacks to use in the shock during tuning to maximize performance and feel for your particular set up.
     

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