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Diff drop or no diff drop?

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010-2024)' started by TBob89, Mar 22, 2024.

  1. Mar 22, 2024 at 8:33 AM
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    TBob89

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    Installing a Eibach Pro lift next week on my 19 sr5 and I’ve been researching diff drops when lifting the front end and it seems pretty split. So as the title says, diff drop or no diff drop?
     
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  2. Mar 22, 2024 at 8:34 AM
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    Jynarik

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    Not necessary
     
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    No need.

    Personally I wont do a diff drop until I go long travel Dobinson IMS59-50574 in the front.
    The only reason I will then is to avoid CV bind at full droop.

    With regular travel shocks and less than 2.5" of lift height I don't believe it's necessary. Diff drops also reduce your ground clearance.

    Good info here:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47aat1tc6zw
     
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  4. Mar 22, 2024 at 9:30 AM
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    Hey OP

    2.0 - 2.75" lift, correct?.

    I did a 3" front, 2" rear lift
    I did have a diff drop kit installed.
    I've been in quite a few conversations on the topic here. I feel that if your running near a 3" lift or higher, diff drop isn't the wrong thing to do, but has positives and negatives.
    1. It can very moderately improve your trucks geometry and angles
    2. But, it lowers your ground clearance

    This is a popular take:
    https://youtu.be/47aat1tc6zw?si=0riEuc9J0gP5l41J
     
  5. Mar 22, 2024 at 9:33 AM
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    Also, 2019 SR5 is a great year, and trim to build on. If I could do it over again, I've said before it'd be a 2019 sr5.
    Goodluck
     
  6. Mar 22, 2024 at 9:36 AM
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    The premier Toyota shop that is in my area said they rarely do them or recommend them. Most people will not require a diff drop for most lifts.
     
  7. Mar 22, 2024 at 9:42 AM
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    Not needed if you have OEM CV axles. To improve inboard CV boot life you can stretch the boot a little and put a hose clamp around it: https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/my-cv-boot-mod.190669/

    Did this on my Tacoma in about 15 minutes lying in the driveway:

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  8. Mar 22, 2024 at 10:23 AM
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    It’s never needed.
     
  9. Mar 22, 2024 at 10:56 AM
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    I did it on my taco but won't do it on my 4runner
     
  10. Mar 22, 2024 at 4:19 PM
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    I just installed the Eibach stage 1 lift this week and the cv angles don’t look bad. I’m not doing a diff drop. I also spoke with Eibach and they said not needed
     
  11. Mar 23, 2024 at 7:45 AM
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    No diff drop
     
  12. Mar 24, 2024 at 9:52 AM
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    Not needed on a Toyota IFS. You gain nothing and prevent nothing as is pointed out on the videos above.
     

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