1. Welcome to 4Runners.com!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all 4Runner discussion topics
    • Transfer over your build thread from a different forum to this one
    • Communicate privately with other 4Runner owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

Largest 2021 4WD tire size without level or lift

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010-2024)' started by TRAVIDIOUS, Feb 21, 2024.

  1. Feb 21, 2024 at 6:20 AM
    #1
    TRAVIDIOUS

    TRAVIDIOUS [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2024
    Member:
    #38667
    Messages:
    16
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    travidious
    Apache Juntion
    Vehicle:
    2017 limited 4x4 & 2016 POLARIS RZR XP1000 "Bankruptcy-Starter Kit"
    4RUNNR-3" Bilstein lift X 33" tires & RZR XP-NOT ENOUGH ROOM TO LIST ALL MODS
    Hello all "Yota folks!
    I'm a former Tundra TSS owner (2013) and should have never sold it.
    I'm Travis. Me and my wife just bought 2 4Runners and I'm excited to get going with them....

    Hers is a 2021 SR5 4WD (totally stock)
    Mine is a 2017 Limited 4WD (3" lift/ 32" tires)

    My FIRST QUESTION IS FOR HER'S...What is the biggest tire size I can put on hers without lifting or leveling?? This will get me into some better looking rims that we'll use later when I do lift/level it for larger tires.
     
  2. Feb 21, 2024 at 7:31 AM
    #2
    Ironguy

    Ironguy New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2019
    Member:
    #12421
    Messages:
    7,222
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Ralph
    Bisbee AZ
    Vehicle:
    2020 Black 4Runner Venture 1967 FJ40 Land Cruiser
    New pine scent hanger, new sun shade
    Welcome from Arizona!
     
  3. Feb 21, 2024 at 8:02 AM
    #3
    TRAVIDIOUS

    TRAVIDIOUS [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2024
    Member:
    #38667
    Messages:
    16
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    travidious
    Apache Juntion
    Vehicle:
    2017 limited 4x4 & 2016 POLARIS RZR XP1000 "Bankruptcy-Starter Kit"
    4RUNNR-3" Bilstein lift X 33" tires & RZR XP-NOT ENOUGH ROOM TO LIST ALL MODS
    I'm here in AZ too. Apache Junction!
     
  4. Feb 21, 2024 at 8:23 AM
    #4
    steelevo

    steelevo Not so new anymore...

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2022
    Member:
    #29845
    Messages:
    2,606
    Utah
    Vehicle:
    2023 4Runner TRD Pro Solar Octane
    Welcome. A few others with experience will chime in.
     
  5. Feb 21, 2024 at 9:24 AM
    #5
    JET4

    JET4 Old Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2018
    Member:
    #8147
    Messages:
    4,230
    Gender:
    Male
    Southeast, Va.
    welcome
     
  6. Feb 21, 2024 at 9:39 AM
    #6
    3JOH22A

    3JOH22A Toyota Gigolo

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2022
    Member:
    #30349
    Messages:
    2,183
    Gender:
    Male
    District 6ix
    Vehicle:
    5G 4Runner, 3G Tacoma on 35"s
    Biggest tire size without rubbing is the stock 265/70-17 (32") on the stock +15mm offset wheel. If you find some 4th gen +30mm offset wheels, you should be able to clear 255/80-17 (33"), but the stance will be narrower.
     
  7. Feb 21, 2024 at 9:47 AM
    #7
    TRAVIDIOUS

    TRAVIDIOUS [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2024
    Member:
    #38667
    Messages:
    16
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    travidious
    Apache Juntion
    Vehicle:
    2017 limited 4x4 & 2016 POLARIS RZR XP1000 "Bankruptcy-Starter Kit"
    4RUNNR-3" Bilstein lift X 33" tires & RZR XP-NOT ENOUGH ROOM TO LIST ALL MODS
    Thank you very much 3joh22a
     
  8. Feb 21, 2024 at 9:59 AM
    #8
    Thatbassguy

    Thatbassguy New member? Really??

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2019
    Member:
    #9314
    Messages:
    13,650
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    James
    S/E Wisconsin
    Vehicle:
    2019 TRDORP, KDSS, MGM
    RSG sliders, Yakima offgrid basket, Pro-Comp wheels, SOS Streamline bumper and skids, Warn VR EVO10S winch + Ultimate Sidewinder, Bilstein 6112 + 5100 + rear lift coils, Rigid Dually SS ditch lights w/Caliraised brackets and OEM style dash switch
    Welcome to the forum from Wisconsin!

    Lift alone doesn't clear tires. It only hides the rubbing. The possible exception is a body lift.
     
  9. Feb 21, 2024 at 10:08 AM
    #9
    CalcityRenegade

    CalcityRenegade New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2023
    Member:
    #31252
    Messages:
    632
    First Name:
    Matt
    Calgary, Alberta, Canada, Earth
    Vehicle:
    2023 T4R ORP KDSS
    Lift will not help. Choosing the appropriate tire size and wheel offset will. 285/70R17 with +4 to 0 offset seems to be the sweet spot for minimal rubbing.
     
    Thatbassguy likes this.
  10. Feb 21, 2024 at 10:15 AM
    #10
    TRAVIDIOUS

    TRAVIDIOUS [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2024
    Member:
    #38667
    Messages:
    16
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    travidious
    Apache Juntion
    Vehicle:
    2017 limited 4x4 & 2016 POLARIS RZR XP1000 "Bankruptcy-Starter Kit"
    4RUNNR-3" Bilstein lift X 33" tires & RZR XP-NOT ENOUGH ROOM TO LIST ALL MODS

    Can you explain/help me understand the "+4 to 0 offset" and how do I shop for this in a search?
     
  11. Feb 21, 2024 at 10:21 AM
    #11
    GrimJeeper91

    GrimJeeper91 New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2023
    Member:
    #36855
    Messages:
    331
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Terry
    SoCal
    Vehicle:
    2024 TRD Off-Road
    Yokohama AT's, Bilstein 5100's, Talon's Garage full skids.
    Even when staying with stock size, just changing from the factory tire to an all terrain (which generally have a wider tread) will change the look considerably. I kept the same size yet when from a 31.6" to a 31.9" tall tire but the wider tread makes them look even bigger. Here's before and after pictures...

    20240104_170926.jpg
    20240106_123738.jpg
     
  12. Feb 21, 2024 at 10:25 AM
    #12
    TRAVIDIOUS

    TRAVIDIOUS [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2024
    Member:
    #38667
    Messages:
    16
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    travidious
    Apache Juntion
    Vehicle:
    2017 limited 4x4 & 2016 POLARIS RZR XP1000 "Bankruptcy-Starter Kit"
    4RUNNR-3" Bilstein lift X 33" tires & RZR XP-NOT ENOUGH ROOM TO LIST ALL MODS
    Same 4R that my wife has essentially, that all I'm trying to do right now. I found some 265/75r16, on aftermarket rims and Just want the better look for now. Will use the same rims on bigger tires once a lift is installed.

    Thanks for the pics. very helpful to get a visual.
     
  13. Feb 21, 2024 at 10:25 AM
    #13
    5thToy

    5thToy New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2022
    Member:
    #29611
    Messages:
    527
    Gender:
    Male
    Northern Nevada
    Vehicle:
    2019 SR5P
    Lower positive and higher negative offset values represented in mm pushes the wheel further out, creating a larger sweep radius that can introduce interference/rubbing. Any wheels you are shopping for should indicate offset.
     
  14. Feb 21, 2024 at 10:26 AM
    #14
    Thatbassguy

    Thatbassguy New member? Really??

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2019
    Member:
    #9314
    Messages:
    13,650
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    James
    S/E Wisconsin
    Vehicle:
    2019 TRDORP, KDSS, MGM
    RSG sliders, Yakima offgrid basket, Pro-Comp wheels, SOS Streamline bumper and skids, Warn VR EVO10S winch + Ultimate Sidewinder, Bilstein 6112 + 5100 + rear lift coils, Rigid Dually SS ditch lights w/Caliraised brackets and OEM style dash switch
  15. Feb 21, 2024 at 10:27 AM
    #15
    Slopemaster

    Slopemaster Slope Survivalist

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2021
    Member:
    #20442
    Messages:
    3,085
    Gender:
    Male
    Idaho
    Vehicle:
    2018 SR5
    265-70-17 Ridge Grapplers, TRD Pro rims, 3M precut bra, N-Fab nerf/steps
    +1, here’s my rig with stock size tires. I had a 3/2 lift with 285’s and it was no more capable than it is now with 265’s.

    485B8E82-387B-4760-A500-395122A8B081.jpg
     
  16. Feb 21, 2024 at 10:56 AM
    #16
    wax poetic

    wax poetic Raking like a mofo

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2023
    Member:
    #32027
    Messages:
    634
    Gender:
    Male
    Arizona
    Vehicle:
    21 Super White TRD OR
    OEM+ Trail Edition rims w/ Toyo AT3 in stock size / OEM Black Lug nuts OEM Heritage Grill OEM Black Valences (f + r) Westcott Sliders/Modular Roof Rack Roam 95L case DIY sleeping platform
    16's won't fit unfortunately
     
  17. Feb 21, 2024 at 10:58 AM
    #17
    TRAVIDIOUS

    TRAVIDIOUS [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2024
    Member:
    #38667
    Messages:
    16
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    travidious
    Apache Juntion
    Vehicle:
    2017 limited 4x4 & 2016 POLARIS RZR XP1000 "Bankruptcy-Starter Kit"
    4RUNNR-3" Bilstein lift X 33" tires & RZR XP-NOT ENOUGH ROOM TO LIST ALL MODS
    Thatbassguy[QUOTED] likes this.
  18. Feb 21, 2024 at 11:06 AM
    #18
    TRAVIDIOUS

    TRAVIDIOUS [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2024
    Member:
    #38667
    Messages:
    16
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    travidious
    Apache Juntion
    Vehicle:
    2017 limited 4x4 & 2016 POLARIS RZR XP1000 "Bankruptcy-Starter Kit"
    4RUNNR-3" Bilstein lift X 33" tires & RZR XP-NOT ENOUGH ROOM TO LIST ALL MODS

    Can you explain why 16" wont work??
     
    Thatbassguy likes this.
  19. Feb 21, 2024 at 11:11 AM
    #19
    wax poetic

    wax poetic Raking like a mofo

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2023
    Member:
    #32027
    Messages:
    634
    Gender:
    Male
    Arizona
    Vehicle:
    21 Super White TRD OR
    OEM+ Trail Edition rims w/ Toyo AT3 in stock size / OEM Black Lug nuts OEM Heritage Grill OEM Black Valences (f + r) Westcott Sliders/Modular Roof Rack Roam 95L case DIY sleeping platform
  20. Feb 21, 2024 at 11:15 AM
    #20
    TRAVIDIOUS

    TRAVIDIOUS [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2024
    Member:
    #38667
    Messages:
    16
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    travidious
    Apache Juntion
    Vehicle:
    2017 limited 4x4 & 2016 POLARIS RZR XP1000 "Bankruptcy-Starter Kit"
    4RUNNR-3" Bilstein lift X 33" tires & RZR XP-NOT ENOUGH ROOM TO LIST ALL MODS
  21. Feb 21, 2024 at 11:32 AM
    #21
    backpacker

    backpacker New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2023
    Member:
    #32515
    Messages:
    2,187
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2023 TRD ORP
    RSG sliders, Falken Wildpeak 265/70R/17 E
    They won't fit over the brake calipers.
     
  22. Feb 21, 2024 at 11:37 AM
    #22
    TRAVIDIOUS

    TRAVIDIOUS [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2024
    Member:
    #38667
    Messages:
    16
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    travidious
    Apache Juntion
    Vehicle:
    2017 limited 4x4 & 2016 POLARIS RZR XP1000 "Bankruptcy-Starter Kit"
    4RUNNR-3" Bilstein lift X 33" tires & RZR XP-NOT ENOUGH ROOM TO LIST ALL MODS
    WHAT A GREAT GROUP AND EXPERIENCE FOR FIRST TIME POSTER HERE. THANKS SO MUCH GUYS!!
     
    CalcityRenegade and Thatbassguy like this.
  23. Feb 21, 2024 at 11:38 AM
    #23
    TRAVIDIOUS

    TRAVIDIOUS [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2024
    Member:
    #38667
    Messages:
    16
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    travidious
    Apache Juntion
    Vehicle:
    2017 limited 4x4 & 2016 POLARIS RZR XP1000 "Bankruptcy-Starter Kit"
    4RUNNR-3" Bilstein lift X 33" tires & RZR XP-NOT ENOUGH ROOM TO LIST ALL MODS
    SAVED ME SOME HEADACHES 4-SURE
     
    Thatbassguy likes this.
  24. Feb 21, 2024 at 12:40 PM
    #24
    nova

    nova New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2022
    Member:
    #28359
    Messages:
    556
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    mike
    Prescott Valley - Arizona
    Vehicle:
    slightly modified LE
    4.88, Air lockers, 35 Toyo MTs, C4 body armor, +2 LT, etc
  25. Feb 21, 2024 at 12:51 PM
    #25
    Manhattan

    Manhattan New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2024
    Member:
    #38590
    Messages:
    256
    Gender:
    Male
    The factory 17s and 20s have a 15mm offset. So, if I'm understanding correctly, going to 285/70/17s (32.7"), on factory wheels, even with a 2-1 lift, the tires will rub the plastic fender liner. And the fix is to cut, drill two new holes, move in 1"... is this accurate?
     
  26. Feb 21, 2024 at 1:26 PM
    #26
    TRAVIDIOUS

    TRAVIDIOUS [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2024
    Member:
    #38667
    Messages:
    16
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    travidious
    Apache Juntion
    Vehicle:
    2017 limited 4x4 & 2016 POLARIS RZR XP1000 "Bankruptcy-Starter Kit"
    4RUNNR-3" Bilstein lift X 33" tires & RZR XP-NOT ENOUGH ROOM TO LIST ALL MODS

    Because Im an old Marine, Im going to ask for this to be broke down shotgun style...Given the above video, what is the largest tire size on a 17" rim that will fit and not rub??

    Im guessing a 275/70/17 (32.16")? & if trying to go 285/70/17 it will become questionable??
     
  27. Feb 21, 2024 at 1:30 PM
    #27
    wax poetic

    wax poetic Raking like a mofo

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2023
    Member:
    #32027
    Messages:
    634
    Gender:
    Male
    Arizona
    Vehicle:
    21 Super White TRD OR
    OEM+ Trail Edition rims w/ Toyo AT3 in stock size / OEM Black Lug nuts OEM Heritage Grill OEM Black Valences (f + r) Westcott Sliders/Modular Roof Rack Roam 95L case DIY sleeping platform
    I think even then it will depend on the rim width/offset and tire design but I'll let others chime in.
     
    TRAVIDIOUS[OP] and nova like this.
  28. Feb 21, 2024 at 1:43 PM
    #28
    DesertSurfer

    DesertSurfer New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2023
    Member:
    #33284
    Messages:
    1,533
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Gary
    San Diego
    Vehicle:
    2024 T4R ORP w/KDSS Underground
    Welcome to the forum!
     
  29. Feb 21, 2024 at 2:28 PM
    #29
    TRAVIDIOUS

    TRAVIDIOUS [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2024
    Member:
    #38667
    Messages:
    16
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    travidious
    Apache Juntion
    Vehicle:
    2017 limited 4x4 & 2016 POLARIS RZR XP1000 "Bankruptcy-Starter Kit"
    4RUNNR-3" Bilstein lift X 33" tires & RZR XP-NOT ENOUGH ROOM TO LIST ALL MODS
  30. Feb 21, 2024 at 2:30 PM
    #30
    nova

    nova New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2022
    Member:
    #28359
    Messages:
    556
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    mike
    Prescott Valley - Arizona
    Vehicle:
    slightly modified LE
    4.88, Air lockers, 35 Toyo MTs, C4 body armor, +2 LT, etc
    Consider the wheel you like. Best fitment comes from POSITIVE offset wheels. 33's will fit in the wheel well fine, it's the wheel poke that kills the deal.

    I forgot to mention welcome to the forum! I'm moving to AZ in a few months!

    Edit: With respect to the author, I'd question a lot of the article's advice - Caveat Emptor
     
    Last edited: Feb 21, 2024

Products Discussed in

To Top