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Roof rack question

Discussion in '4th Gen 4Runners (2003-2009)' started by Curt73, Feb 6, 2024.

  1. Feb 6, 2024 at 11:04 AM
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    Curt73

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    I see I can get the roof rack that attaches to the existing roof rack....(which mine is the factory tubing roof rack) and I also see the ones that replaces the existing roof rack. What are the pros or cons on the one that attaches to the existing roof rack? Thanks.
     
  2. Feb 6, 2024 at 3:14 PM
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    djwantke

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    Hey OP @Curt56
    That's right
    I crossed this bridge about a year ago.



    Pros for bolt in:
    Stronger
    Safer
    Much more low profile
    And aerodynamic
    Full roof length available

    Pros for U-Bolt Bracket
    Often less money
    Often less heavy
    Can be a quicker install, no removal of factory rack (factory bolts up there can be difficult to remove)
    Many options for cargo baskets
    Easier to remove/revert back

    Saved money and bought a powder coated steel roof rack basket off Amazoné 1" bars. 3/4 roof length approx. 60". It mounts to your factory crossbars with U-Bolt brackets.

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  3. Feb 6, 2024 at 3:18 PM
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    Curt73

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    Does it interfere with the sunroof?

    And definitely a lot less money for sure. I haul kayaks so maybe keeping the roof rails would be better.....but I do like the low profile of the bolt on but damn they are expensive
     
  4. Feb 6, 2024 at 3:48 PM
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    djwantke

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    So mine was one of the longest cargo baskets I could find on Amazon, which is what I was looking for. It covers almost half the sunroof. Does it interfere with sunroof, no. But you could easily buy a slightly shorter length rack.
    It truly is, a lot, less money.

    You get what you pay for, yes low pro looks sick, especially when you know what he paid lol
     
  5. Feb 6, 2024 at 4:02 PM
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    backpacker

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    Since the bolt on one sits higher and the spoiler inherently won't be in the best position, I think it would probably net you worse mpg for the life of your vehicle than totally new solution. That could add up to the cost or more of a more expensive rack after 100k miles.

    That's a great question....what mpg hit did people see who have the bolt on version?
     
  7. Feb 6, 2024 at 4:33 PM
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    Worse than no basket, better than a basket attached to factory crossbars. Generally about 18 mpg on the highway.
     
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