Initial GX 550 Reviews... looking good!

22R-TE.

And, most of the best heavy duty truck engines are I6 turbo diesels. I'll take an I4 or I6 over a V6 or V8 every time, if reliability is a concern.

 

Lmao! You think potential Tacoma buyers are going to choose Jeep instead, for reliability?

 

I would prefer V8s but absent of that, a V6 turbo if it was down to that or an I4 turbo, but GM has been putting their 2.7L L3B I4 turbo in their full size Silverados since 2019. I haven't heard anything particularly worrying about it but of course, time will tell.

 

GM lol.

 

When was the last time GM did something that made sense

 

I might be more inclined to try a turbo 4 than a V8 with cylinder deactivation. The 5.3 in my work truck is fantastic so far, but I feel like it's a ticking time bomb.

 

Sorry...this is the one and only new 2024 Landcruiser.

 

Sell that crap, get a Cummins and cherish it forever. Get it with the Aisin.

 

@Yotaholic, off topic, but is there a reason why you make a new post for every sentence?

 

What about the stubby?



I'll bet a bunch of people here will say that they'd buy one if they could.

But, either way, whatever Toyota puts a "Landcruiser" sticker on is a Landcruiser. We don't get to decide.

 

Go to Ram's website, and build the cheapest Tradesman. What do you do for work? Whatever you do, that'll take care of anything you throw at it

 

I don't need an HD for my job. And, this is free. I'll drive whatever they give me.

 

I'm not good with these forums

 

If this new Land Cruiser has some serious kdss like the 200 series, then I would live with that four banger

 

In N. America and Europe only. In the rest of the world it is a Prado because Toyota does not have the stomach to call it anything better if a series 70 or 300 Landcruiser is sold nearby.

And whatever Toyota puts a "Prado" sticker on is a Prado. We don't get to decide.

 

Here you go with the updated tow ratings:

 

Good thing we're getting the 250 instead of that bloated 300 series.

Also, I hate to break it to you, but the Prado is a Landcruiser.

 

It is a land cruiser. There are so many Land Cruisers in that part of the world, they have one called the Trooper. They have Land Cruiser pickups, we just don't get the cool stuff here

 

EPA are the enemy of fun

 

Diesel, two lockers, two solid axles, no stupid aluminum, no stupid plastic, no stupid electronics, no stupid safety bs, that's what the folks in the land down under get.

 

Take a magnet and identify the steel parts in our 5th gen, and then see all the aluminum in the 6th gen

 

Who cares if they use some aluminum? It's not like the body is hard to dent as it is.

 

Your insurance will go up. And aluminum sucks!

 

The Prado is a land cruiser, Toyota created the name because some markets get both versions and they need some way to distinguish them. I don't see a point in gatekeeping what is an isn't a Land Cruiser. Toyota isn't going to read your comment and go back on the name, and it's not violating some core identity of the Land Cruiser (it's BOF and 4wd), all your gonna do is upset people who like it or own one. Be happy they didn't [Jeep] Cherokee it.

Toyota doesn't bring the LC70 because they think it wouldn't sell. They could totally fit the same power train to the LC70 as in the Tacoma and pass emissions. I think safety would be more difficult since the vehicle has the proportions and crumple zone of a 40 year old vehicle. Australia can get away with it because they have garbage fuel, and no emissions or efficiency standards. And even there, Toyota had to change the GVM of it to skirt new safety regs this year. And they just introduced the I4 diesel in it as a contingency for the upcoming efficiency standards being talked about in Canberra that could outlaw the V8 diesel currently offered.

I'm fine with the EPA, I like clean air, I want the next generation to inherit something that isn't a giant pile of shit, and I don't want to die in water wars. Even if there wasn't an impending doom, the supply of the stuff that makes gasoline is finite, so we're only bringing on the inevitable. It sucks, but it is what it is.

 

Then what are you doing driving around in a 4Runner for? Shouldn't you be commuting in a bicycle as you preach? Your 1997 4Runner with a manual is far more polluting then anything with a 1GR.

By the metric of the EPA 100% of this forum should drive an EV for commuting and should not venture off road since that disturbs wild life and damages wild life habitat everywhere you drive a motor vehcile

 

And I am 97% sure they still get an option for a manual gearbox...

 

By that logic I'd be against laws banning asbestos in new homes because my 50 year old home contains asbestos.

Demanding new vehicles be cleaner is fair game (especially considering their service life). And you shouldn't have to drive a Prius to advocate for that.

My criteria was my car had to be an SUV since I drive up to college states away, I need 4wd since it snows a lot, it had to be a manual, and it had to be under 10k. There aren't many clean vehicles that meet that. I have the I4, I fixed exhaust leaks that weren't even causing me to fail smog, and I didn't mod the hell out of it. I do the best I can.

 

The difference is the asbestos in your house is contained and at most hurts just you.

Meanwhile you wax poetic about clean air and all that noble stuff, while driving a horribly inefficient and polluting(by current EPA standards) SUV that gets maybe 20mpg on the highway and maybe 15 in the city, spewing pollutants that poison the air (according to EPA) that everyone around you has to breath in(which EPA really does not approve of). The reality is no one *has* to have a manual or 4x4 or SUV to drive in snow country, millions of people do just fine with 2wd auto tranny passenger cars in the snow belt, heck when I lived in Ohio I commuted to work in a 10 year old at the time 40mpg FWD Corolla just fine through snow seasons. I didn't even have a car in college and took public transit between my folks' place and school.

Face it, it was not "need", you WANTED a 4wd manual SUV that's probably older than you are because that's what edgy kids do, you probably wanted a BOF one because the XJ Cherokee’s are getting hard to find and you are way more rugged than those Subaru people, and used snow as an excuse to drive a gross polluter(by current EPA standards) and you are too cheap to buy a newer, less polluting vehicle to do so.

You are just one of those people who preach one thing, while doing the exact opposite. There is a name for that but since you are a smart fella who goes to college, I am sure you know what that word is.

And you know what's funny? Your 97 with its 4 cylinder engine and manual is probably closer to the genocidal war machines used in water wars(which you so cogently and passionately denounced) than most 4Runners still on the road. But hey, you are the one who has the vision for a clean tomorrow.

 

I'm flattered you think I'm a politician. But I'm not that scummy.

I can like old vehicles, and want newer vehicles to be cleaner, they aren't mutually exclusive. Just because there was a time you could buy a simple polluting vehicle doesn't mean they should sell them like that forever.

I accept my car isn't clean, and from your perspective that should mean I can't endorse tightening emissions standards.

The only difference is I'm fine forcing people who want that through buying a 20 year old used car, instead of making it easy and allowing new vehicles like that to be sold. I'd happily buy my car if it were sold today with an A24A paired with RC60F. But that'll never be more than talk, which is cheap, because Toyota isn't gonna do that.