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BMC - Round or Flat?

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010-2024)' started by raimieb, Jan 6, 2024.

  1. Jan 6, 2024 at 11:49 AM
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    Do you recommend the flat BMC plates or the semi-circular ones?

    Which gives the best clearance and support?
     
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    Semi round.
     
  3. Jan 6, 2024 at 6:48 PM
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    Thank you! Saw the RSG ones. They seemed good.
     
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    Depends if you're chafing due to tire diameter or tire width/offset.

    SDHQ type with a bend that gives more diametrical clearance: https://sdhqoffroad.com/products/10...r-sdhq-built-body-mount-chop-filler-plate-kit

    [​IMG]

    In salty regions it's better to leave it open like Jeep cab mounts to avoid trapping mud and road salt. It'll be stronger than OEM after a few winters:

    [​IMG]

    Cut/grind until the tires clear. Flex it out off-road, check for chafing, grind more if needed. Once you're satisfied with the clearance, fabricate or order a plate that fits.
     
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  5. Jan 6, 2024 at 7:05 PM
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    ^Large diameter tire - go with SDHQ type
    Wide tire or very negative offset - go with the open type

    You don't have to decide now. Again, just cut/grind until the tires clear. Flex it out off-road, check for chafing, grind more if needed. Once you're satisfied with the clearance, fabricate or order a plate that fits. Some people leave the chopped mount unfilled for a year before they decide it's "finalized" and weld in a filler plate.
     
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    I rub due to spacers if that helps on 285s
     
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    ^Show pictures of the rub.
     
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    It rubs on the body mount just a smidgen about the middle of it. It’s snowing out and 11pm.
     
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    Here's a what mind ended up looking like.

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    Thank you for your insight. Went with truenorthfabrication.com. They made semi-circular. NJ here so salt and snow are an issue. I'll be using Mainline 4x4 for the install and welding (not my specialty). Thanks to everyone who gave insight. Appreciate you guys.
     
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    Hope it will look exactly like that!
     
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    Good luck with the BMC, it's exciting!

    I did the flat style, looks slick af. I rubbed the exact same way with 0 offset 285/70's on 9" wide wheels. The curved bmc looks to sometimes involve bucking off more of the OE body mount and in my opinion ultimately removing more strength than I did. Some say don't buck off any of it, in the case of motor vehicle crash safety and possible insurance hickups.
    I believe body mounts are near the top of the highest strength steel on frame.

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    Right on! I bought the plates off some website, and cut as close to the body mount bushing I could. For my setup now I have a ton of clearance(to the body mount).
     
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    Your clearance looks amazing I like that
     
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    Buddy did all the painting for me, I'm pretty sure it was just rattle can but who knows. I walked over to Cabela's near his garage haha
     
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    I did it myself.
     
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  26. Jan 18, 2024 at 6:49 AM
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    Its really not difficult with the right tools (grinder and mig welder). It took me less then 2 hrs. Id guess a shop will change you less then $400.
     
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    Your buddy did a nice job! If you get a chance could you snap a picture of your BMC showing what the bottom of the BMC looks like? I'm considering doing the cutting and prep for mine. But not the welding. Thx!
     
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    Bought brand new 2016 After May 2021: -Approx 3" lift/level: Bilstein 5100's, OME 2884 590lb 3" front lift springs, SPC UCA's, ICON 158506 2" lift rear coils, diff drop -Mickey Thompson Baja ATZ LT285/70R17 Load E -Mickey Thompson Sidebiter ll 17x9, 0 offset, 5 backspace -Pro Comp black spline lugs ^installed by 4WheelParts^ -New brakes and rotors by brake shop -4-piece ARB skid kit -Smittybilt 2" nerf steps -MBRP black exhaust tip, chopped OEM -Drivers side OEM FJ oh shit handle -All blacked out emblems -Blacked out roof rails -4x WeatherTech window rain guards -OEM custom rear mud flap deletes -KICK BACK MUD FLAPS 12" WIDE - BLACK TOP AND BLACK WEIGHT -FRAM EXTRA GUARD CA10835 engine air filter -1797 LED tricolor fog bulbs Yellow 3000K White 6000K Blue 15000K 28W 4000LM -Armour paint lower rear bumper -Front bumper high stage high clearance cut -Fenders cut straight across, pink reservoir sprayed black -4Runner Lifestyle sequential fog fangs -4Runner Lifestyle smoked taillight decals -Pedal Commander -Rear passenger cargo mounted 120v truck tire pump -4x Spidertrax 1.25" black aluminum wheel spacers -Yota Twins Paracord Hatch Strap sand camo -Teton Workshop hard anodized matte black aluminum shift knob -Ditch flood lights 4 LED 20w 1400lm w/ OEM hood mounts on OEM style dash switch -Backup flood lights under bumper 6 LED 18w 1500lm on OEM style dash switch -Body Mount Chop; cut, weld, paint -Fender mount chop, re-weld, paint -Fender Liner cut behind wheel (I cut liner in front of wheel clean off at top of viper cut) -Wheel well firewall hammering, painting ^done by Arc One Industries^ -valance cap trim -Agency6 Black Shackle Block 2" US Certified 6061 T6 CNC machined aluminum -DRT fab universal hitch skid -ACDelco inner tie rods, outer tie rods, bellows -Full Dr. KDSS switch kit -March 31 Behind grille 13-1/4" 32 LED light bar + wide-angle, eagle-eye lens 6000lm on OEM style dash switch -RAA Powder coated steel roof rack cargo basket, 1" side rails, 64" x 39" x 6", 250lb limit -roof gas can, water can, shovel -PEAKTOW PTT0063 Hitch Mount Cargo Carrier 51-1/2 x 17-1/2 x 4 inches 500 lbs. Capacity (trips only) -July/2023: purchased first needed SPC balljoint replacement kit - newly released, upgraded non-zerk sealed joints 25002 -July 15/2023: The Original Universal EZ Flares, 1". All four corners -Dec. 2023: removed bumper cover and crash bar, drilled frame, installed Apex Overland KDSS Recovery Points -Jan. 2024: SPC balljoint replacement kit - upgraded non-zerk sealed joint design 25002 -Feb. 3/ 2024: 4x KC Wire Hiders, for roof rack lighting Feb. 13/2024: New ditch lights, on new Rago Fabrication Extension brackets. 3inch Quad Row Amber Pods from LED-Club. 32W 3200Lm 16-LED Spot Beam. Replacing 3inch EVERGEAR clear lens ditch light pods w/ yellow lamix-x In progress: 4th, 5th, and 6th set of off road lights Electrical components and wiring purchased, not started -roof rack scene lighting - EVERGEAR ea. 1,350 lumens, 30w, 3-¾" round floods. Custom, side mounted w/ galvanized flat bar And -roof rack upper ditch lights - 3inch Quad Row Amber Pods from LED-Club. 32W 3200Lm 16-LED Spot Beam. Bar clamp mounted to front corners And -roof rack reverse amber pods / secondary hazard lights. 20W 2000Lm 2-LED Spot Beam. Bar clamp mounted to rear side And -roof rack F1 smoked chase light w/ lighting effects. Custom bolted to rear side -POR15 rust proofing line-up, 3-step process PAUSED until 70⁰ weather Bought, in the garage queue: -BlueFire 6-Circuit Fuse Block with LED Indicator & Protection Cover -Blue Sea Systems 100A Circuit Breaker w/ reset lever -Rust prevention •New can POR15, 2x Black Fluid Film, long spray nozzle attachments, 2x PB Surface Shield, 1x Chainwax •partially used POR15 Degreaser, Metal Prep Wanted - PerryParts or Wheelers bump stops, self fabricated limb risers (seasonal, removable), 1" body lift, powder coated center winch bumper w/ large bar (got no tss), rear steel bumper w/ tire carrier for an LT285 Kumho on steely, sliders, bolt on cat shields
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