When is a vehicle too big for off-roading?

Perhaps it's a torque capacity issue. The manual may not be rated for the torque output of the V6. The 2.3 still makes more HP & Torque than the 4.0.

In non- sports cars, the take rate on the manual is generally pretty low. Same way on Jeeps.

 

I can't get over the botched headlights and cheap looking fender flares. I don't know what the design team was thinking.

In 30 years, nobody is going to give a shit about it. They'll still be restoring older ones, though.

 

That 2.3 makes way more power than our 4.0, so who cares? It's not a race car.

 

Yeah that's what I read, but still nothing some good old engineering can't fix. Maybe the take rate would've been better since it's mostly enthusiasts going for the Sasquatch and such.

 

The 2.3 is nice ngl. I had it in a rental Explorer before and that thing rips, and that 8-speed ooooof loved it. I wonder how long term reliability is tho, although it's been out long enough in the Mustang and most say it's good, there were a couple recalls early on but has been decent since then.

 

imo it looks ok, but the Bronco Raptor flares those are just fugly. They make it look super cheap.

 

I haven't watched this video since it was new, but I recall it being a great demonstration of what the Sasquatch is capable of. Later on they sold this and got a Braptor, they wheeled the snot out of it too.

https://youtu.be/o-qq2kyLC-8?si=x2gYttcd8in3uw6h

The Braptor video:
https://youtu.be/anunnCJXBSw?si=DwqlWE-4y7vcEKT4

 

I know why everyone loves LiteBrite

 

100% agree on the raptor fenders!

I actually think the non-Squatch Badlands is the cleanest looking Bronco. That's the one with the steelies.

 

She's good for thumbnails for sure, but she's also one hell of a spotter and driver.

 

Yeah Brittany is excellent and she's a true car guy as well.

 

4Runner can be modified to have all that. For $70k that Ford wants, I can turn my 4Runner into a beast that will have that Bronco for snack. On the other hand, 4Runner and Bronco cannot be modified to become a Wrangler.

 

There is nothing else out there that is this tiny.

 

Well, except for the ones that came before it!

But you can’t buy anything that small in the US anymore, except for a few road cars.

 

You guys really think this looks ok?



Fuckin' gross!

 

The second ugliest vehicle ever built, cybertruck is number one

 

10/10 looks better than the 5th gen.

 

Looks much better than the BRaptor!

 

This is bad, but the Mustang Mach-E is a bigger abomination

 

You should probably get your eyes checked!

This I can agree with.

 

I want whatever you're smoking

 

I tend to agree. But, they are faster than the GTs were 20 years ago.

 

Those of you who are interested in buying a new jeep, get the latest JL, things are going to go down the toilet under Stalantis. The JL, with the 3.6 and 8 speed is like the 5th gen 4Runner of Jeep.

 

Have randomly checked out the forums from time to time and it is interesting to say the least.

 

The thing got sold this morning. Damn

 

The anime catfish look of the 5th gen has just gotten old, I'm sick of seeing it. 10 years and not even a fresh bumper redesign FFS.

They still look good from the side, I was walking out toward mine parked by itself in the parking lot the other day, the sun was hitting it just right and I thought damn that's a good looking vehicle.

I just think the Bronco looks cool, I like the front end and the squared off shape. I just wish they offered it in a steel roof version.

 

You're right about that! It's about time.

I happen to think catfish are awesome, though. So, maybe that's why I still like it.

It's really just a few things that I don't really like. I think they screwed up the grill with the yellow dashes cutting into the headlights. And, I just really think the fender flares look cheap. They don't hold up to the old ones, for me.

 

What's Bronco's selling point? Bronco, why not Jeep? I test drove a Bronco. Build quality is crap, cheap crappy plastic all over. If you are into buying crap, then why not Jeep?

 

Well, now you're just talking crazy.

I agree, though.. There's something about the sound of a V8 that you just don't get with a 4. I actually think some 4 cylinders sound good with the right exhaust. But, it's not the same as a V8. It's part of the reason I'd rather have a slower ICE sports car than an EV sports car. The sound of the engine is part of the experience.

 

I have been saying this to people forever. I'd rather have the 3 cylinder Corolla than the fastest Tesla or Lucid.