1. Welcome to 4Runners.com!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all 4Runner discussion topics
    • Transfer over your build thread from a different forum to this one
    • Communicate privately with other 4Runner owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

New brakes install any pointers

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010-2024)' started by sympley76, Oct 4, 2023.

  1. Oct 10, 2023 at 11:10 AM
    #31
    backpacker

    backpacker New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2023
    Member:
    #32515
    Messages:
    2,187
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2023 TRD ORP
    RSG sliders, Falken Wildpeak 265/70R/17 E
    I'm glad to see a working time comparable to what it might take me. If it's not something I've done before, I frequently stop to think and revisit my plan for the next few steps.
    I take little breaks between steps to stay fresh and also whenever I feel any frustration that could increase the likelihood of doing something dumb.
     
    McSpazatron likes this.
  2. Oct 10, 2023 at 11:14 AM
    #32
    RumHamRunner73

    RumHamRunner73 Dead on with a zero

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2022
    Member:
    #29771
    Messages:
    2,784
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Philip
    Oakboro, N.C
    Vehicle:
    2022 4 Runner Limited. Blizzard Pearl
    Second this in regards to a free sliding caliper. Some of those caliper pins can corrode and cause uneven breaking during application. Did the pads appear to be wearing evenly, inner & outer? If not, This would be a good indication of the possibility of a sticking caliper/caliper slide pin.
     
  3. Oct 11, 2023 at 6:43 AM
    #33
    sympley76

    sympley76 [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2022
    Member:
    #28774
    Messages:
    306
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2021 4Runner Limited
    In my case the pads were definitely not wearing evenly. Driver front the inner was worn approx. 3mm more than the outer. The passenger front was closer but inner was also worn a bit more but not as bad as the driver side.
    The caliper pins did look pretty rusted and seize up, but was able to pull them with pliers. Looked bad but did not get too much resistance when taking them out so not sure it they were OK or not. Replaced with new ones and added some brake grease on them as well. Will need to find some will power to get the wheel off again and add the second anti-rattle clip. Would that really make a difference? Does the clip has enough strength to actually help the pads pull apart.
     
  4. Oct 11, 2023 at 7:05 AM
    #34
    3JOH22A

    3JOH22A Toyota Gigolo

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2022
    Member:
    #30349
    Messages:
    2,178
    Gender:
    Male
    District 6ix
    Vehicle:
    5G 4Runner, 3G Tacoma on 35"s
    ^A single clip applies force unevenly at the bottom of the pads, so the pads may get cocked and bind up on the retainer pins. Two clips even out the forces. A few guys in my off road club run a 2nd clip on each caliper and it makes a difference for them.

    The forces involved are small, since the pads retract only a fraction of a millimeter (from piston seal flex) when you let off the brakes. Any binding in the pins will prevent proper retraction.
     
  5. Oct 11, 2023 at 7:27 AM
    #35
    sympley76

    sympley76 [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2022
    Member:
    #28774
    Messages:
    306
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2021 4Runner Limited

    The forces involved are small, since the pads retract only a fraction of a millimeter (from piston seal flex) when you let off the brakes. Any binding in the pins will prevent proper retraction.

    Makes sense, I was watching many videos and as you mention some of these videos had clips on top and bottom. My brake kit came with only 1 per caliper but I saved the old ones so once my back recovers I will probably put them in.
     
    McSpazatron likes this.
  6. Oct 11, 2023 at 8:09 AM
    #36
    backpacker

    backpacker New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2023
    Member:
    #32515
    Messages:
    2,187
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2023 TRD ORP
    RSG sliders, Falken Wildpeak 265/70R/17 E
    Does the second clip go at the opposite end, with the opposite orientation?
     
  7. Oct 11, 2023 at 12:39 PM
    #37
    3JOH22A

    3JOH22A Toyota Gigolo

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2022
    Member:
    #30349
    Messages:
    2,178
    Gender:
    Male
    District 6ix
    Vehicle:
    5G 4Runner, 3G Tacoma on 35"s
    ^Example picture from TW:

    [​IMG]
     
    AuSeeker and backpacker[QUOTED] like this.
  8. Oct 11, 2023 at 1:34 PM
    #38
    glwood54

    glwood54 Stop making me buy stuff!

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2019
    Member:
    #10964
    Messages:
    6,630
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Gary
    Albuquerque, NM
    Vehicle:
    2019 OR, KDSS, RSG sliders, Eibach shocks, 265/70 Falken Wildpeaks
    Good job. Definitely need bigger jack stands, though, especially if you plan to have all four wheels off at the same time.
     
  9. Oct 11, 2023 at 9:21 PM
    #39
    McSpazatron

    McSpazatron New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2021
    Member:
    #19810
    Messages:
    5,491
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2021 4runner OR
    Dobinson IMS Warn Bumper CaliRaised Sliders 285/70 K02s
    Nice! I totally get the back recovery time lol, especially since I man a desk most of the time. But that short term back pain seems to make my back better for a few months afterward…it’s like a chiropractic alignment lol.


    The extra retaining clips in the front are a good idea that hopefully will help with the pull. But keep an eye on it, might be bad calipers. Judging from the condition of the old rotors, those brakes have had a pretty short and hard life (either due to conditions, or use). I’ve been through tons of mud, a few winters, heavy-ish loads, and daily commuting in my 21, and they don’t look anywhere near that bad.

    Yes, always assume the jackstands will want to kill you. Just don’t trust them, even when you do. It’s best to mitigate risk where you can, taking off only the wheels needed. Since you can only work on one corner at a time, you only need to remove one wheel at a time. For tire rotations, I do front to back, and only remove wheels from one side at a time. That makes it easier to set up a redundant method specifically for the corner or side being actively worked on.
     

Products Discussed in

To Top