Trans Fluid Change Issues

Yes that's why they are held on with FIPG. It isn't meant to be serviced regularly if at all until rebuild. Anything that you might need to service has RTV or reusable for gaskets if you don't drop in skid. Magnetic tools and trays are handy. I'm going to put an electric fan on mine because it does help with the speed the engine revs on low end
I got a mile per gallon on my 97 with electric fans but carry outlanding or long trips I would carry black electric tape, stretch fusing tape for water protection and fuses. Blew all fuses driving home one day a little over 50 miles one way and didn't stop until I got home and it would get in the red if you got to close behind someone else and you got in dirty air flow but I changed oil every 10k on it and did iridium plugs and everything on it every 100k. Had a transmission cooler on it and fluid looks as good as 100k as it did new. Never If the Toyota transmission fluid runs at pressure like the engine oil a filter would probably limit flow but Toyota never has had a lot of transmission problems. I started out changing oil and moved up. We had one guy or 4 out of 10 techs but we each had two racks to work off off and 3 if we were really tied up or overrun, I only sold honestly I can say. I made a few mistakes but that's how you learn, granted I used to drive Mopars everyday and work on them all weekend until I bought my first Toyota. That's when I knew how much money I was wasting always modifying them and just driving 100 miles a day to work somewhere that paid decent money for an honest days work. Only better thing than a 4runner working on the mountain doing mine reclamation was a Ford festiva I bought for $300 in salvage yard, always ran Castrol synthetic oil in it and I never had any engine problems from the 3 or 4 cylinder it had, paid buddy to put in a good engine for $200 and I went up to top of mountain in snow and ice and and you could gear it down and you never had to use brakes coming off a mountain. Best place to buy a Toyota is an off brand dealership to get a better price. Their money is mostly profit when you trade in 4 runner with 200k. The 2001 I bought for 5k before COVID or beginning of is now worth $10-12 now. You could get a third generation I saw in North Carolina with under 100k for $10k at one point. Now $24k for one with lower mileage than 120k. I here people looking for good used 3rd gens on radio because they still running no matter the maintenance. Where you buy and what part of country it came from will tell you what it should look like underneath. My 2001 was prettiest 3 gen I had seen in brilliant blue and thunder gray trim. I wish they had started the new colors back then. I have heard some say the Xreas on 4th gen is better but I can run 100mph on stretches of interstate and mine seems to do as good or better than the competition, but I was used to 3rd generation plus they got down most side by side trails easier. Can't do with 4th generation up without taking extra stuff down trail . I probably only really need a 2wd , but I like more options, I'm bad to window shop and drive thru ditches or things and they are handy. Especially if interstate is backed up for miles and I have to use median for backtrack. It says authorized only but you can fit even if there's no road and a damp spot in the middle, but shift into 4wd first if you're not sure, I have AWD so mine thinks even when I am not. I can drive. I don't really have to shift . In my Dodge Ram chargers I had to have it in 4wd because if you wait you are stuck before you realize it. I backed a trailer up a muddy slope moving from my old place and I was impressed, but I always had been, the tech in the system. There's a reason no anti lock brakes on a 4runner. It would involve more tech to turn off because you don't want anti lock on a real off road 4wd. You will be stopping when you run into the thing in front of you while hanging on to steering wheel screaming or praying one. Best thing about totaling my 97 and 98 was I got more back from insurance than I paid. A testament to the quality and I would assume amount spent on medical attention during 4runner wrecks. My 2013 limited is $127 a month full coverage with higher protection and $500 deductible and my 2006 Corolla was $109 a month for higher liability. Only thing I can think is Xreas is a good anti roll over system for people who don't check and adjust their tire pressure regularly and adjust accordingly to load or someone who watches for the stupid light every time. There's still one owner 3rd generation out there with low miles, but buying one today is expensive. Labor market and parts supply have been a problem for people wanting a new one. I haven't seen any Toyota dealers pricing over the MSRP like people buying a new bronco or something you actually want being. I have heard of people ordering for one price for a bronco but adding to it when they get it because boxes still make the most sense if you are hauling something. As long as they have a frame still underneath, the technology will come next year with turbo 4 , which with a high enough gear ratio and a 6 or 8 speed it should do well and get higher 20s but let's be real. We that really know and have driven for decades and worked on them, when they really need it, don't worry about used. We know 300-400k and replacing nothing is the norm on a properly set up Toyota . Never seen a transmission temperature light either, if you do you better service regular and do some mods for the weight. I was afraid to drive my limited when I got it because it seemed so big and top heavy, now I know what I know from driving and modifying it like I did others I had, I push it around curves that surprise GX owners trying to keep up. That's strange but they may not understand that you can't flip it on straight level ground or curves. Granted I probably could having totalled 16-17 cars, walking away from all of them mad. I put a limited slip out of a 87 Supra in my 97 and not good on black ice and I was just coasting across it and holding the wheel straight it went right straight into a bank. It was totalled but I kept and put everything on a 98 I bought. I will tell you don't trust anyone at a dealership unless you know them a little personally. Ask for your old parts in the factory boxes and educate yourself on so they aren't giving you a old Corolla or tundra pad so they can sell you new ones. The butt kisser that was always jealous of me because I wasn't fed good high paying maintenance jobs that they say will take 3 or 4 hours and you can sit on them if you are token spoiled with biggest ego, is head tech now which is strange because there was a tech that worked there they had just for the unexplained, but he had to search schematics and find the one bad plug not making contact in the system. We got the snap on laptop or Panasonic laptop actually, but he could find it it just took time . Most everything can be done with a laptop now but on the hybrids we had two Japanese code readers would come to work on hybrids. I know they really guard their electronics and that some parameters can be changed with $450 Overland Toyota Tune can improve a lot. I wonder how much the software actually does change things but I wonder if you buy the program software for $5k or less maybe more but if you can get someone to drive rather than a head of time to see or feel the difference. My transmission was a little confused when I hadn't changed the fluid, but I could not put fluid that bad back in folks regardless of the possible consequences. If I need a transmission I will buy one from Toyota. I bought a Facebook transmission for my 2001 ,drove 9 hours round trip to north of Memphis and after I finally got help putting it in, it started slipping as soon as it got warm and only had reverse. He said some guy had put some better red clutches in it and maybe he did. He rebuilt them for a living and he didn't get it and if mine goes out at 300-400-500k I prefer the transmission that little Japanese hands have been in. I found a transmission for it until 2021 they removed most parts like that from inventory because at 20 years old they usually don't make or carry parts but they may be available somewhere. I know that there's a a few 4 runner junk yards around for people who know and prefer factory parts instead of aftermarket. I use Denso TTs iridium plugs in mine. Didn't look like they had been replaced with which is usually a plug interval now. Mine ran fine with the. 75 gap instead of the factory recommended. 44 gap. It was running and starting fine, but Denso TTs will go 120k plus it seems like it helps my mileage and power slightly.

 

Yep sorry I slept good last night after two nights of being sick and I am up ready to talk and share what Toyota experience I have had. I hate to be lied to by someone I am paying to do something the right way one time the first time. If I screw it up then I can't be mad at anyone but myself and I might have to pay too correct, but it's my fault for not educating myself about what should be happening. You can always crack your check plug and get enough to know if it has been done. I'm surprised mine was still shifting although it was more confused about shifting. I guess dilapidated original isn't good at 190-200k . I didn't clean exhaust pipe off and I still smell some fluid burning off a little. I thought it might be slipping but I haven't felt anything yet but overdrive will just disappear most likely of all things. I don't have torque converter shutter when it tries to go to Overdrive at 35-40 but I don't think it's good to drive around in town with overdrive on. Mine runs away above the speed limit coasting. I do like how you can really use gas pedal to control transmission shifts up and I like the down shifting on inclines if you brake hard enough and in economy mode going down hill it automatically downshifts and the motor brakes for you so not wearing brakes out then. You use the brake and gas pedal for that not DAC button. That's for low speed down hill decent where your ass may come over the hood type of decent. It may only work when it's it 4wd anyway or AWD. It would be nice to have manual locking hubs if you broke an axle. With my Pedal Commander, Borla exhaust, K&N filter in factory box and Jet performance MAF sensor I get 24 mpg on the interstate and 19 plus or minus depending on the time I have to idle. With the push button start I usually turn off in a slow moving line. Thirty minutes of idle in mine changes mpg average about 2 to 3 tenths a gallon as I am single and OCD I have nothing else to do but inform people with too much money how to save it because it looks better when you go to sell it, but you don't get that much more unless you were trying to get big money for one with. The thinner oil actually circulates and cleans better than thicker oil. Toyota uses synthetic oil now so I don't know why they recommend oil change at 4 or 5 k when I change mine every 10 miles using Toyota filter or Wix EX is good to. They build next best filter for everything made and something's that aren't anymore either. I forgot who I told what when I started talking but if I repeated myself I am sorry. I should be on my Facebook 4 runner club teaching people who want to do totally unnecessary maintenance. I would drive a year on the same oil as long as I know the 4runner oil cooler is working because when you take a Toyota motor apart you will still see the cross hatch marks on the cylinder from when it was originally done and even then the motor won't really be broken in. I owned a 1992 Camry one time with the freest running 2.2 four cylinder I have ever owned. I had wife and her kids with trunk full with some stuff in their lads and I got 36 mpg at 80 miles and hour going to Indianapolis to drop kids off so the inlaws could program them for a while and we had something to do when they come home. I haven't driven another Toyota with such a free running, exceloration as that one it was a buy here pay here wreck at the time but that's where Toyotas with high miles go to live on another day and be the best most reliable 4wd you can drive everyday everywhere no matter the miles. 4 runners are priced new or by mileage used because they know they should go 300k at the least without doing anything, hence I assume now I bought one that hasn't had anything but oil and filters changed. If you can grease it your self, we always used Primrose. It was a green and very tacky to a point where water couldn't get in and if it did it wouldn't mix or reduce synthetic oil effectiveness. So if you where way out in the woods and you got your diffs contaminated it won't aeroate like regular oil and water. You can drain into a pan and when you get up in the morning just pour the water off and reuse. I am pretty sure Toyota has put a bigger ring and pinion in these and they have used synthetic for years because they don't have any real natural resources in Japan would hope but these are considerably heavier than 3rd generation so I assume they us synthetic Toyota gear oil made but Aisin or Mobil 1 because they were the first commercial synthetic oil I remember from back in 1973 gas crisis. I'm sure one of those is coming again, especially since we pay our enemies which creates the inflation to start with. People add fuel costs to everything regardless of what you pay for now. The newer Woke 4runner will be out next year and people with lots of money to speed will be dropping the 5th generation, 2010-2023 I hope will have parts available for longer than 20 years. I remember the first regular cab V8 tundra my service manager drove coming into a dealership. If they still made one of those I would buy because to me a 4 door truck defeats the purpose of having a truck. Couldn't even find any online. Apparently most regular RCSB trucks don't sell enough. That's funny because I looked at one that was probably a rental car originally and it was a little over 200k maybe and interior picture sold me on not buying it. Anyone who takes care of a Toyota like he should shouldn't have that problem unless something was mounted in there on the dash like a company meter. However, they had one with a million miles in about 6 or 7 years after selling the first one and just know if you do go 1 million miles and you been servicing at a local dealer, they will probably give you a new vehicle. I don't know if you have to trade the good one you know for the new one you don't, but hey.. they probably sell them in Armenia or middle east countries where the women do all the work so the men can kill each other for a living. Of some kind apparently. Anyway. I won't bother you anymore, but if you have a question I will find out or tell you where. Google does the same thing. I am in a 4runner club in Canada although I will never go there but I remember living at home and being able to buy things I didn't need, like a 50k dollar off road version. That's all I see here are people driving off road, on the road so I will look to buy one of them when it acts up and they don't think it's a good 4runner because of the mileage or something simple to fix. I'm 60 and I assume this will last me the rest of my life since I don't drive a 100 miles today. That's why I agreed to sell my place about 2 years or about a year before COVID and I lost 150k dollars on the price I set for it. I sold a thirty year old house that needs 20 fewer steps than it was going to have because when I built it I put drains downstairs and I had free natural gas. I had heard that it was one of best wells in the state. We ran two houses off of it for 30+ years or so. The drip tank would thaw and started leaking because it was on the ground for about 40 years, these rich people wanting to get out of the city would have paid $300k for 40 acres and free natural gas. It was in the middle of nowhere when you used to have to drive 50 miles or more to work. If you are at a point when you don't know what decision to make just email me and ask. Chances are I know the wrong one to pick after my life experience or more the one not to. Later tater.

 

I don't know but there may be a windage pan in there to. Probably not because they have always built bulletproof transmissions. The motor will have a windage tray to keep oil around the pickups. I have heard of some people using 0W30 oil and it might be better for really consistent hot weather and you are driving it a little harder I saw one transmission replaced on a 1997 one time but they let their kid take it off road up to the frame in and he tried rocking it out by shifting back and forth. Apparently he didn't know how to drive or I would have picked a better route. If you don't know for sure or don't have the tires to power out, you have to get out if you can't get a wheel to one side of the hole. I think street tires and peer pressure got him going through a hole you don't have a ground guide or help that can pull you out. Street tires although I am running on may pop brand tires. They May Pop At Any time. I don't like 20s even though everything is going to that. I had to much air in my tires and it got to sounding like I had a pop bottle from the feedback to the Xreas system . I put better tires on front because there's not an honest rotation left in them because they were pretty new when I bought it which is nice on a higher mileage Toyota but I have driven 28k moving and doing everything nowadays retired and they have done pretty good because the alignment for a limited was different than the specs on my honest alignment guys and he had to make a phone call to get the specs. Probably because of Xreas. I saw they had SR5 specs and trail spec but nothing for a limited. The toe in was toe in top much and you could tell because I put my cruise control on about 80mph and keep my left wheel on the yellow line or right wheel on white line depending on the lane and I don't get pushed around in the wind much. However I used to build roads and I know there's a seam there that big tires will pull to and the line helps you maintain lane control with plenty of passing room so if you are already there in the groove it will help you stay on your line which it actually helps your cruise control also. I have passed people going uphill with both of us running same speed but as long as I am in one of those lines, plus the raid is usually better there because you are out of the traveled way which is why higher traffic roads or poorly constructed roads or poorly maintained. You see all kinds in this state depending on where you are in the vote count. I'm done my last chapter. The End of my personal email book of items not to worry about and what works for me.

 

Dang dude you just do some lines?

 

Is this a Toyota forum or War and Peace? Easy there, Tolstoy.

 

I have the only Sasquatch edition I know of. You can get it at Temu for $4 or I can put in a Toyota box for a $100. I thought about putting them in the side fender like a jeep to taunt them them, but they already driving a poor quality vehicle for extra you have to pay on MSRP over the price, they are screwed but with a lot more accessories available. When a second generation Prius needed work Japanese guy came with a laptop and nobody was allowed to look at the code. I guess if you understand it a piece might might get you a key. That's where Toyota power is really hiding because you are pulling a 3:73 but bigger tires which isn't great like 4:10 but I don't think most torque is onow end but the 4.0 is a deep ,long winded machine that pegs speedometer before you run out of motor breathing. You can't build a engine like that. It actually is more efficient operating in manual at certain speeds help mileage with big rubber and saves brakes to. Sometimes you get mileage at low speed in forth yleed shifting but the power is there if you work your pedal. That's what I like is auto upshifts and down shifts pitch and yaw I just press pedal if I need or gas ride off the hill letting the motor brake my truck. Some in the club didn't believe my mileage or range after fill up but I didn't manipulate anything. I am older I remember spending money on cars and stuff foolishly. That's why I am here I now know kids don't know anything young. We learn from our mistakes but you should never repeat same mistake more than twice. Three strikes and your out man.

 

That's why regular maintenance is better anythimg with FIPG early gasket material hold on on is it is designed for regular maintenance and not cleaning the magnet. It comes apart at rebuild. We never remember pan at Toyota. You can create an expensive problem by thinking you are help but it really doesn't matter as much on 4runner. I saved my , original transmission fluid with 192k and I guess the dealer wasn't going to chance creating a problem. As I said anything that needs to be serviced regularly will have RTV or or reusable metal like EGR for plugs just don't over tighten. I also found a metal oil filter housing which tells me one idiot at least has a there and it sm missing skid plate bolts except for the easy teo

 

Dude you are over thinking the maintenance. Don't replace Toyota seal unless with another Toyota seal we don't replace screens and remove pans. I can tear my stuff up just worry really hard. Should use a micrometer to measure original depth so you know when new one is seated right. FIPG is a liquid paper gasket that lasts longer than the whole car and not leak, but like a fool in my 2001 I used to Felpro long life instead of doing what I knew better to do it leaked 3 minutes after start up. So I created my own problem and I knew.better but faster easier. When couldn't get a transmission from Toyota when they hit 20 years old. They didn't make parts anymore. I would collect boot rebuild kits regular wear items if you want them to last as long. Toyota still has the best wipers. Aftermarket skipped across my windshield and by second set of Toyota no issues. They clean better and last longer.

 

When my T4R ALL FLUDS are due for a change, I’m NOT going to the dealership to do it. The stakes are too high imho.

 

I do mine every 90k. Everything and don't worry about it until the next 100k. You might want to do transmission a little early but from what I see, with cooler 100k is fine transmission cooler on the exit line coming out of radiator mounted in front of condenser. Make sure you plumb though filter and after watching a Toyota steering rack rebuild and I am Ito use a small transmission cooler and plumb it between but if it helps longevity. I don't care as much about milage as fight heat for better durability condenser and radiator and if can get pressure crimp kind might help. Any cooling should protect the seals . Never seen one replaced it's a hydraulic drag link., the dealers rebuild not replace. them I change that. Even if a boot is leaking are seals not torn you can put a needl. e on grease gun push boot back grease and new clamp with

 

You can use copper RTV for exhausts gaskets and works great replacing car back exhaust . I use on my edelbrock stainless headers for 3rd gem .had the coated and 15 years later it still holds cross over and never retightened since first time. Joy of perfection and no vibration or leak

 

I sold my 4runner to a Ford guy and he started replacing stuff that bad with aftermarket. He rescued his son and his wife last two vacations drinking a Ford, pulled home and his wife bought a Rav4 and but wouldn't drive in bad weather. He left it at exhaust without understanding or leaving instructions and instead asking anything . I already told him. It had Michelins which get best mpg and light, but he replaced struts because he thought it felt soft. I told him too put all terrain truck tires if want handle. Hadn't been on dirt road until I brought it home. That pretty black coat on a new and no rust frame. It had never been out of Nashville . My mail lady has a high surf right hand drive. No 4runner emblems

 

What was the question...?

 

After mine settled it was still red. Band material was changing the color until it settled. I think I will reinstall a pint through the fill plug, but mine works better

 

Are you using AI to type all that?

 

No I have sleepless periods and live alone. It's good to kinda talk to someone. I am passing on past experience of what I have learned. Nothing is worse than a good job bad. I have been there and I made the mistakes so you don't have to

 

I went to Evelyn Woodhead Sped Redding Course and I can actually red and ritt. The other day it was moving everything where it wants. I probably typed same stuff twice and quit. I am thinking about going a mounting my cooler.

 

After letting mine sit so I could see the really fine material, if you actually put a filter instead of screen, it will stop up a filter. After it drains on shut off, material settled and it works fine for a short while again. Don't use aftermarket parts. I would rather pay someone to do nothing than have to do twice. Better to pay someone who knows to leave it alone.

 

Third here, It is now tabled and a new law should be suggested.

 

Aren't all Lexus premium? I think my Limited is a Lexus with fewer buttons. Anyone see a one owner. I wish they would pop some high mileage Lexus