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Rear 4 speakers not working

Discussion in 'Audio & Video' started by sebosky2384, Jul 25, 2020.

  1. Jul 25, 2020 at 8:16 AM
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    I just got a great deal on a 2011 4r from family, single owner, low miles great condition, everything is perfect except only the back 4 speakers, 2 rear door and 2 lift gate speakers don't work. I've tried a different head unit, tried jumping the wires to a new speaker but nothing going to the wires, and the head unit is 100%. I believe it is a wiring issue between the head unit and the rear speakers. Any suggestions or tips on how to get new wires ran clean and out of sight?
     
  2. Jul 25, 2020 at 12:13 PM
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    I'm not familiar with how the audio is setup in an 11' but does it have an amp?
     
  3. Jul 25, 2020 at 12:39 PM
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    It does not have that JBL audio amp and subwoofer, stock regular CD player head unit, and 8 speakers: 1 in each door, 2 tweeters I'm the dash and 2 in the lift gate. Wiring harness is weird I'm not even sure what wires go to the speakers exactly
     
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    Sorry for the late comment. The back speakers are all in series, so if any one speaker is out, they all will not work. Best bet is to check the connections / polarity on each speaker, or just do an upgrade and rewire them in parallel.
     
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    The left side is series and the right side is series, they are not all four wired in series. He would need one left and one right to both have failed to have no audio in the rear.

    This is plausible however.

    I would meter the connector at the rear door speaker on each side to diagnose.
     
  6. Oct 6, 2021 at 12:18 PM
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    Are the rear 4 speakers stock? If they aren't, there's a decent chance someone along the way also added an amp. The amp may have gone bad or maybe the "remote turn on" wire to the amp came off or a fuse has been blown. You said it's a 1 owner vehicle. Maybe ask them if they ever had any audio work done.

    I also believe your 4Runner has the "party mode" button, which does some electrical magic and routes all sound to your lift gate speakers from the rear door speakers. Maybe that button is malfunctioning? It also could mean your rear lift-gate speakers are blown if the party mode button is engaged & they aren't working.

    If the system is completely stock, the party mode button isn't engaged and you don't have any electrical diagnostic equipment, try taking one of the rear lift gate speakers and plugging it into the opposite side door speaker location. If that works, do the same to the other side. If that fixes the problem, you have blown door speakers. If none of that changes anything, you either have a bad head unit or the wires to both sides have been cut or worn through, which would really be surprising.

    To find that problem, you're talking about removing the seats, consoles, door trim pieces, and carpeting to follow the stock wiring and/or running new speaker wire. It's not a quick project. If it were me, I'd buy what's called an electrical toner and "tone" the rear speaker wires at the head unit to see if the "tone" is heard at the rear speakers, starting at the doors. If the tone is there, it's not a broke wiring issue.
     
  7. Oct 20, 2022 at 4:48 PM
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    Hey guys. Sorry to revive this thread but my left back and left hatch speaker is not working. Every other speaker works just fine. I have a 2014 4runner sr5 non JBL and I do not have a "party mode button“. Any thoughts what could be causing the issue? I have new kicker speaker and swap them to troubleshoot the issue and no sound, so I know is not a speaker issue. I’m checking the head unit next since I was considering replacing the head unit to a double din Pioneer. Does the OEM head unit has an integrated amp?
     
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  8. Oct 21, 2022 at 4:13 AM
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    Yeah, easy fix.
     
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    What’s the fix sir???
     
  10. Oct 23, 2022 at 5:56 PM
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    Well, we know each side is wired in series and if there is a connection issue on either speaker they would both go out so the easy fix is to bust out the old meter and chase the open circuit.

    I’d start at the hatch speaker and verify impedance on the speaker disconnected, then the disconnected wires if the speaker shows good. Probably either one speaker is bad, or the connection to one of the speakers is.
     
  11. Oct 23, 2022 at 6:04 PM
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    I’m not sure about the connection being in series as I interchanged speakers and is not the speaker. I thought, could it be the radio not sending a direct signal? So I also change the radio for an aftermarket and is not the radio either. Some advised that it might be the OEM radio amplifier located in the trunk right side. Even if is the amp, what would be the next step? Are they rebuildable? And who can do the job? Find a use one on eBay etc.
    One option I had in mine (in which I tried already and works perfectly) was to throw a line directly from the aftermarket radio to the back door speaker. However I truly want to fix the issue and not cut corners.
     
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    Keep it simple and verify your speakers and connections first. It’s a process and it’s best to start at step 1.
     
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    It would be great to have a diagram of the full audio system but very difficult to get one.
     
  14. Mar 27, 2023 at 8:04 PM
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    2011 4runner. Hatch speakers are working in party mode, not doors. Turn off, just front. Party mode switch? No jbl
     
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    buy a multimeter and learn how to use it. Simple to pop speakers out and check for continuity, highly doubt the issue is in the wiring itself. If it’s not an amplified system it’s either the speakers or the HU channels, that’s it. As someone mentioned above, car audio is in stereo, so having a blown speaker would affect only the side with which it is in line.

    Check the HU by looking for ac voltage locally at the speaker locations.

    simple and plain.
     
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    Few month ago I had a similar issue (speakers not working) and made a post for it to gather some input from the community. My driver side rear speaker and the hatch speaker stopped working and I thought it was a wire issue as well. I had a spare speaker at home and swapped it to troubleshoot the issue and both speakers started to work. From the manufacturer, the rear driver side speaker is also in connection to the left hatch speaker. At first, I thought it was a wire issue b/c the OEM speaker looked brand new. I would definitely encourage OP sebosky2384 to swap the speakers first and see if that fixes the issue before starting to rip interior panels out etc.
     
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    Update?
     
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