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5th Gen outer tie rod question

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010-2024)' started by nova, Oct 17, 2022.

  1. Oct 17, 2022 at 5:05 AM
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    Does anyone know if the 5th outer tie rods are the same on each side? I know at least on the 3rd Gen they are different.

    The only part number I have found is
    Steering Tie Rod End (Left, Right) - Toyota (45046-69245

    so it appears as if left and right are the same. Is that the case for the 5th gen?

    thanks
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  2. Oct 17, 2022 at 7:42 PM
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    Yup, they should be. I actually just ordered some from McGeorge Toyota this weekend. You can see the description from online:

    4504669245 - Steering Tie Rod End (Left, Right) TIE ROD, LEFT; TIE ROD, RIGHT.
     
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  3. Oct 17, 2022 at 9:10 PM
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    Thanks Kid,

    I also checked with McGeorge and confirmed the same. I’m not planning on doing any swaps yet, I just like to know ahead of time.

    Thanks for your reply.
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  4. Mar 16, 2023 at 10:36 AM
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    Hey guys I'm replacing my passenger side tie rods, do you know the size of the pinch/jam nut where the inner meets the outer? Can't seem to find it. Thanks
     
  5. Mar 16, 2023 at 11:34 AM
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    I was trying to find this too, recently, and realized that the nut might be a part of the inner tie rod assembly and not spec'd out on the car parts pages that I've been browsing.
     
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    Thank-you! I found this to be true as well. Someone on here's gotta know, I want to get a crowfoot socket in that size so I can torque to spec and sleep at night. The shop that installed my lift and suspension upgrades did alignment and both pinch/jam nuts either back off or were left loose, destroyed all the threads on both passenger side rods and yesterday separated completely leaving my driveway!
     
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  7. Mar 16, 2023 at 2:16 PM
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    Ok, I just went outside and put my digital calipers on the jam-nut on my inner tierod that butts up against the outer tie rod (just to make sure we're talking about the same part). I'm getting 22mm as a reading.

    2019 5th gen 4runner TRD Offroad - OEM steering setup.
     
  8. Mar 16, 2023 at 2:37 PM
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    You da man! Perfect thanks a lot for that
    Anf to answer your question about which assembly the pinch / jam nut come with: Toyota Dealership-Parts confirmed that nut doesn't come with ITRE, but it comes with the entire rack. However you can buy the nut itself for $3.50 CAD and wait for shipping. I plan to re-use mine. Also was told the ITRE doesn't look to come with the OEM lock washer where it meets the rack? Reuse?
     
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    Coincidentally, I just bought an Inner TRE today and picked it up at the dealership - No hardware. I'd say reuse if you have one.
     
  10. Mar 20, 2023 at 10:50 PM
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    @nova update, Toyota dealer parts quote for japanese rods: outer $60 (highest around by $10), inner $460 (ridiculous. that's with no hardware or rack & pinion bellow!).
    Was told if you buy the whole rack, you get all the hardware - pinch nuts, bellows, clamps, castle nuts, cotter pins.

    However, if you go aftermarket Moog or ACDelco rods (before discounts): outer around $50 (comes greased with castle nut+cotter pin), bellow $25, inner around $70-200...and the ITRE came with a new pinch nut!
     
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    Interesting. Good to know. Dealer price like $300-$400 for OEM ITRE? Thx
     
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    My ITRE was $160.00, just fyi. Toyota OEM. I’m hoping they sent me the right part now…lol.
     
  13. Mar 21, 2023 at 8:06 AM
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    bigdaddy2021

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    Armored, Dobinson's lift, 33's, MC TacoBox, Frontrunner rack, light overland mods, M8000 winch.
    Double-checked, when i shop my local dealer it (inner tie rod end) goes from $227 to 164.00

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  14. Mar 21, 2023 at 9:42 AM
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    I'm assuming you are USD tho!
     
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  15. Mar 21, 2023 at 9:43 AM
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    Armored, Dobinson's lift, 33's, MC TacoBox, Frontrunner rack, light overland mods, M8000 winch.
    Ahh, yes, correct.
     
  16. Mar 21, 2023 at 9:45 AM
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    djwantke

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    Bought brand new 2016 After May 2021: -Approx 3" lift/level: Bilstein 5100's, OME 2884 590lb 3" front lift springs, SPC UCA's, ICON 158506 2" lift rear coils, diff drop -Mickey Thompson Baja ATZ LT285/70R17 Load E -Mickey Thompson Sidebiter ll 17x9, 0 offset, 5 backspace -Pro Comp black spline lugs ^installed by 4WheelParts^ -New brakes and rotors by brake shop -4-piece ARB skid kit -Smittybilt 2" nerf steps -MBRP black exhaust tip, chopped OEM -Drivers side OEM FJ oh shit handle -All blacked out emblems -Blacked out roof rails -4x WeatherTech window rain guards -OEM custom rear mud flap deletes -KICK BACK MUD FLAPS 12" WIDE - BLACK TOP AND BLACK WEIGHT -FRAM EXTRA GUARD CA10835 engine air filter -1797 LED tricolor fog bulbs Yellow 3000K White 6000K Blue 15000K 28W 4000LM -Armour paint lower rear bumper -Front bumper high stage high clearance cut -Fenders cut straight across, pink reservoir sprayed black -4Runner Lifestyle sequential fog fangs -4Runner Lifestyle smoked taillight decals -Pedal Commander -Rear passenger cargo mounted 120v truck tire pump -4x Spidertrax 1.25" black aluminum wheel spacers -Yota Twins Paracord Hatch Strap sand camo -Teton Workshop hard anodized matte black aluminum shift knob -Ditch flood lights 4 LED 20w 1400lm w/ OEM hood mounts on OEM style dash switch -Backup flood lights under bumper 6 LED 18w 1500lm on OEM style dash switch -Body Mount Chop; cut, weld, paint -Fender mount chop, re-weld, paint -Fender Liner cut behind wheel (I cut liner in front of wheel clean off at top of viper cut) -Wheel well firewall hammering, painting ^done by Arc One Industries^ -valance cap trim -Agency6 Black Shackle Block 2" US Certified 6061 T6 CNC machined aluminum -DRT fab universal hitch skid -ACDelco inner tie rods, outer tie rods, bellows -Full Dr. KDSS switch kit -March 31 Behind grille 13-1/4" 32 LED light bar + wide-angle, eagle-eye lens 6000lm on OEM style dash switch -RAA Powder coated steel roof rack cargo basket, 1" side rails, 64" x 39" x 6", 250lb limit -roof gas can, water can, shovel -PEAKTOW PTT0063 Hitch Mount Cargo Carrier 51-1/2 x 17-1/2 x 4 inches 500 lbs. Capacity (trips only) -July/2023: purchased first needed SPC balljoint replacement kit - newly released, upgraded non-zerk sealed joints 25002 -July 15/2023: The Original Universal EZ Flares, 1". All four corners -Dec. 2023: removed bumper cover and crash bar, drilled frame, installed Apex Overland KDSS Recovery Points -Jan. 2024: SPC balljoint replacement kit - upgraded non-zerk sealed joint design 25002 -Feb. 3/ 2024: 4x KC Wire Hiders, for roof rack lighting Feb. 13/2024: New ditch lights, on new Rago Fabrication Extension brackets. 3inch Quad Row Amber Pods from LED-Club. 32W 3200Lm 16-LED Spot Beam. Replacing 3inch EVERGEAR clear lens ditch light pods w/ yellow lamix-x In progress: 4th, 5th, and 6th set of off road lights Electrical components and wiring purchased, not started -roof rack scene lighting - EVERGEAR ea. 1,350 lumens, 30w, 3-¾" round floods. Custom, side mounted w/ galvanized flat bar And -roof rack upper ditch lights - 3inch Quad Row Amber Pods from LED-Club. 32W 3200Lm 16-LED Spot Beam. Bar clamp mounted to front corners And -roof rack reverse amber pods / secondary hazard lights. 20W 2000Lm 2-LED Spot Beam. Bar clamp mounted to rear side And -roof rack F1 smoked chase light w/ lighting effects. Custom bolted to rear side -POR15 rust proofing line-up, 3-step process PAUSED until 70⁰ weather Bought, in the garage queue: -BlueFire 6-Circuit Fuse Block with LED Indicator & Protection Cover -Blue Sea Systems 100A Circuit Breaker w/ reset lever -Rust prevention •New can POR15, 2x Black Fluid Film, long spray nozzle attachments, 2x PB Surface Shield, 1x Chainwax •partially used POR15 Degreaser, Metal Prep Wanted - PerryParts or Wheelers bump stops, self fabricated limb risers (seasonal, removable), 1" body lift, powder coated center winch bumper w/ large bar (got no tss), rear steel bumper w/ tire carrier for an LT285 Kumho on steely, sliders, bolt on cat shields
    Canada dollar is the shits man, and I have dual citizenship lol. we set the record for most expensive everything in BC
     
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    Armored, Dobinson's lift, 33's, MC TacoBox, Frontrunner rack, light overland mods, M8000 winch.
    Yeah, bummer! Sorry for confusing the conversation, didn't realize you were our northern neighbor. :)
     
  18. Mar 21, 2023 at 10:10 AM
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    djwantke

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    Bought brand new 2016 After May 2021: -Approx 3" lift/level: Bilstein 5100's, OME 2884 590lb 3" front lift springs, SPC UCA's, ICON 158506 2" lift rear coils, diff drop -Mickey Thompson Baja ATZ LT285/70R17 Load E -Mickey Thompson Sidebiter ll 17x9, 0 offset, 5 backspace -Pro Comp black spline lugs ^installed by 4WheelParts^ -New brakes and rotors by brake shop -4-piece ARB skid kit -Smittybilt 2" nerf steps -MBRP black exhaust tip, chopped OEM -Drivers side OEM FJ oh shit handle -All blacked out emblems -Blacked out roof rails -4x WeatherTech window rain guards -OEM custom rear mud flap deletes -KICK BACK MUD FLAPS 12" WIDE - BLACK TOP AND BLACK WEIGHT -FRAM EXTRA GUARD CA10835 engine air filter -1797 LED tricolor fog bulbs Yellow 3000K White 6000K Blue 15000K 28W 4000LM -Armour paint lower rear bumper -Front bumper high stage high clearance cut -Fenders cut straight across, pink reservoir sprayed black -4Runner Lifestyle sequential fog fangs -4Runner Lifestyle smoked taillight decals -Pedal Commander -Rear passenger cargo mounted 120v truck tire pump -4x Spidertrax 1.25" black aluminum wheel spacers -Yota Twins Paracord Hatch Strap sand camo -Teton Workshop hard anodized matte black aluminum shift knob -Ditch flood lights 4 LED 20w 1400lm w/ OEM hood mounts on OEM style dash switch -Backup flood lights under bumper 6 LED 18w 1500lm on OEM style dash switch -Body Mount Chop; cut, weld, paint -Fender mount chop, re-weld, paint -Fender Liner cut behind wheel (I cut liner in front of wheel clean off at top of viper cut) -Wheel well firewall hammering, painting ^done by Arc One Industries^ -valance cap trim -Agency6 Black Shackle Block 2" US Certified 6061 T6 CNC machined aluminum -DRT fab universal hitch skid -ACDelco inner tie rods, outer tie rods, bellows -Full Dr. KDSS switch kit -March 31 Behind grille 13-1/4" 32 LED light bar + wide-angle, eagle-eye lens 6000lm on OEM style dash switch -RAA Powder coated steel roof rack cargo basket, 1" side rails, 64" x 39" x 6", 250lb limit -roof gas can, water can, shovel -PEAKTOW PTT0063 Hitch Mount Cargo Carrier 51-1/2 x 17-1/2 x 4 inches 500 lbs. Capacity (trips only) -July/2023: purchased first needed SPC balljoint replacement kit - newly released, upgraded non-zerk sealed joints 25002 -July 15/2023: The Original Universal EZ Flares, 1". All four corners -Dec. 2023: removed bumper cover and crash bar, drilled frame, installed Apex Overland KDSS Recovery Points -Jan. 2024: SPC balljoint replacement kit - upgraded non-zerk sealed joint design 25002 -Feb. 3/ 2024: 4x KC Wire Hiders, for roof rack lighting Feb. 13/2024: New ditch lights, on new Rago Fabrication Extension brackets. 3inch Quad Row Amber Pods from LED-Club. 32W 3200Lm 16-LED Spot Beam. Replacing 3inch EVERGEAR clear lens ditch light pods w/ yellow lamix-x In progress: 4th, 5th, and 6th set of off road lights Electrical components and wiring purchased, not started -roof rack scene lighting - EVERGEAR ea. 1,350 lumens, 30w, 3-¾" round floods. Custom, side mounted w/ galvanized flat bar And -roof rack upper ditch lights - 3inch Quad Row Amber Pods from LED-Club. 32W 3200Lm 16-LED Spot Beam. Bar clamp mounted to front corners And -roof rack reverse amber pods / secondary hazard lights. 20W 2000Lm 2-LED Spot Beam. Bar clamp mounted to rear side And -roof rack F1 smoked chase light w/ lighting effects. Custom bolted to rear side -POR15 rust proofing line-up, 3-step process PAUSED until 70⁰ weather Bought, in the garage queue: -BlueFire 6-Circuit Fuse Block with LED Indicator & Protection Cover -Blue Sea Systems 100A Circuit Breaker w/ reset lever -Rust prevention •New can POR15, 2x Black Fluid Film, long spray nozzle attachments, 2x PB Surface Shield, 1x Chainwax •partially used POR15 Degreaser, Metal Prep Wanted - PerryParts or Wheelers bump stops, self fabricated limb risers (seasonal, removable), 1" body lift, powder coated center winch bumper w/ large bar (got no tss), rear steel bumper w/ tire carrier for an LT285 Kumho on steely, sliders, bolt on cat shields
    America's hat!
    Half my family's from Worshington State lol
     
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